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I have never found them difficult to regenerate, but if you have only a = non maintainer build, it is a pain to have to make a new maintainer = build for a minor change. Moreover, our m4 code is particularly painful to use and unreadable. I = have been wondering for some time: should we switch to simpler Python = scripts? It would also mean that we would have fewer files in the = generated/ folder: right now, every time we add new combinations of = types, we have a combinatorial explosion of files. $ ls generated/sum_* generated/sum_c10.c generated/sum_c17.c generated/sum_c8.c = generated/sum_i16.c generated/sum_i4.c generated/sum_r10.c = generated/sum_r17.c generated/sum_r8.c generated/sum_c16.c generated/sum_c4.c generated/sum_i1.c = generated/sum_i2.c generated/sum_i8.c generated/sum_r16.c = generated/sum_r4.c We could imagine having a single file for all sum intrinsics. How do Fortran maintainers feel about that? FX=