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From: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
To: Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Zack Weinberg <zackw@panix.com>,
	Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] network: recvmsg and sendmsg standard compliance (BZ#16919)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:45:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4802db36-be1f-488c-39b6-bdb9198df625@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1606101817020.12325@digraph.polyomino.org.uk>

On 06/10/2016 02:19 PM, Joseph Myers wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> 
>>> (A much more significant issue here is the ridiculous delays in adding
>>> things like gettid() and getrandom().)
>>
>> There are no delays in adding gettid or getrandom, there are only the
>> lack of skilled people willing to do the work at level of quality required
>> of a core library implementation.
> 
> For gettid I think the actual issue is difficulty in establishing 
> consensus in the absence of unanimity.  That's caused issues for all of: 
> gettid / pthread_gettid_np, explicit_bzero, strlcpy / strlcat, Linux 
> syscall wrappers in general especially where not appropriate for the 
> OS-independent GNU API.  (I think all of those are appropriate for 
> inclusion in glibc.)
 
The OS-independent GNU API is in my mind an issue of documentation,
describing which APIs are Linux-specific and which are not.

I would be happy to see gettid implemented as a wrapper if someone
would step up to document exactly how it behaves and where it is valid
to use the resulting return value and in what APIs. That I think is
where everyone balks at the work.

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-10 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-28 14:34 [PATCH v4 0/3] Fix {recv,send}{m}msg " Adhemerval Zanella
2016-03-28 14:34 ` [PATCH 1/3] Adjust kernel-features.h defaults for recvmsg and sendmsg Adhemerval Zanella
2016-03-29 21:32   ` Joseph Myers
2016-03-29 21:50     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-03-29 21:53     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-03-29 22:16       ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-28 14:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] network: recvmsg and sendmsg standard compliance (BZ#16919) Adhemerval Zanella
2016-04-07  9:28   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-04-07 12:23     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-04-07  9:56   ` Florian Weimer
2016-04-07 11:37     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-04-07 12:29       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-04-21 14:01   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-04-21 20:07     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-04-22  8:04     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-04-22 10:25       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-04-22 13:20         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-04-22 13:40           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-04-21 17:15   ` Rich Felker
2016-05-02 19:17     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-06-07 13:31   ` Zack Weinberg
2016-06-07 14:21     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-06-08 20:15       ` Zack Weinberg
2016-06-08 20:58         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-06-09  3:18           ` Carlos O'Donell
2016-06-09 13:35             ` Zack Weinberg
2016-06-10 18:01               ` Carlos O'Donell
2016-06-10 18:19                 ` Joseph Myers
2016-06-10 18:45                   ` Carlos O'Donell [this message]
2016-06-10 20:17                     ` Joseph Myers
2016-06-13 14:43                       ` Carlos O'Donell
2016-06-09 14:21             ` Joseph Myers
2016-06-09 13:25           ` Zack Weinberg
2016-06-09 14:25             ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-03-28 14:34 ` [PATCH 3/3] network: recvmmsg and sendmmsg " Adhemerval Zanella
2016-04-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Fix {recv,send}{m}msg " Adhemerval Zanella
2016-04-06 18:24   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-04-21 13:21     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-05-24 19:44       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-05-26 13:50         ` Joseph Myers
2016-05-26 14:23           ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-05-26 14:37             ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-05-27  9:13         ` Florian Weimer
2016-06-08  8:36 ` Florian Weimer
2016-06-08 12:37   ` Joseph Myers
2016-06-08 15:57     ` Mike Frysinger
2016-06-08 19:45       ` Florian Weimer
2016-06-08 20:19         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-06-08 20:27           ` Florian Weimer
2016-06-08 21:05             ` Adhemerval Zanella
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-03-25 13:57 [PATCH v3 " Adhemerval Zanella
2016-03-25 13:57 ` [PATCH 2/3] network: recvmsg and sendmsg " Adhemerval Zanella
2016-03-23 14:31 [PATCH v2 0/3] Fix {recv,send}{m}msg " Adhemerval Zanella
2016-03-23 14:31 ` [PATCH 2/3] network: recvmsg and sendmsg " Adhemerval Zanella
2016-03-23 15:00   ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-23 18:20     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-03-23 21:51   ` Joseph Myers
2016-03-24 12:58     ` Adhemerval Zanella

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