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From: Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] time: Use CLOCK_REALTIME for time (BZ #30200)
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2023 18:44:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5788439.tzSfqdup6V@nimes> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d39ef569-a3a4-4669-db2f-c1042f3139d1@linaro.org>

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Adhemerval Zanella Netto wrote:
> ... all the trouble gnulib is pushing?

The trouble does not originate in gnulib; it originate through the
use of inconsistent time APIs.

On a typical system, there are
  - hundreds of programs that call gettimeofday() or timespec_get(),
  - hundreds of programs that call time().
Find attached the lists of programs in /usr/bin on my machine:
  - 425 programs that call gettimeofday() or timespec_get(),
  - 730 programs that call time().

Each time a program calls gettimeofday() or timespec_get(), and then,
within 1 to 3 milliseconds, a program (the same or a different one)
calls time(), there is the potential for trouble because the time
appears to go backwards. This trouble can occur with probability
between 0.1% and 0.3%, according to the data in
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30200 .

Gnulib attempts to reduce the trouble for specific programs, by
moving them from the "call time()" camp to the "call gettimeofday() or
timespec_get()" camp.

Bruno


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-08 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-06 16:03 Adhemerval Zanella
2023-03-07 11:11 ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-07 11:45   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-07 11:51     ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-07 11:57       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-07 12:07         ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-08  5:51           ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-08  8:59             ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-08 23:08               ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-08 16:23             ` Bruno Haible
2023-03-08 16:57               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-08 17:09                 ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-08 17:46                   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-08 17:44                 ` Bruno Haible [this message]
2023-03-08 17:50                   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto

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