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From: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>
To: Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Cc: <nd@arm.com>, Wilco Dijkstra <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com>,
	"libc-alpha@sourceware.org" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Improving math function wrappers
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 17:25:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58E3D6EE.6020601@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1703161816370.18031@digraph.polyomino.org.uk>

On 16/03/17 18:24, Joseph Myers wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
>> On 16/03/17 14:29, Joseph Myers wrote:
>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017, Wilco Dijkstra wrote:
>>>
>>>> Given other languages don't even have the concept of errno, C99 doesn't 
>>>> require it, and no application ever reads errno, it is inefficient to 
>>>> force the use of the wrappers in almost all cases.
>>>
>>> C99 not requiring it was an incompatible quiet change from C90.
>>
>> i think glibc only has to set errno when user code is
>> compiled with c89 compatibility and even then only for
>> math functions that were defined in c89 and then only
>> guarantee correct errno setting in default rounding mode
>> (c89 code cannot access the fenv).
> 
> Incompatible quiet change means a good idea to implement the compatible 
> mode ((math_errhandling & MATH_ERRNO) != 0) as far as possible.  Just like 
> it's a good idea to avoid size_t wider than unsigned long.

i think this would be a valid argument if

 (math_errhandling & MATH_ERRNO) != 0

was the only way to get backward compatibility,
but that's not the case: errno can be clobbered
any time and thus c89 backward compatibility can
be maintained with

 (math_errhandling & MATH_ERRNO) == 0

in which case there is no requirement for non-c89
math functions to set errno (or getting errno
right in non-default fenv) and thus the wrapper
can be removed from all single and long double
precision functions (and kept for double prec
c89 functions if glibc cares about compatibility).

> Compilers for non-C languages without the concept of these functions 
> setting errno can of course default to -fno-math-errno by default (and 
> built-in no-errno functions that can be used with -fmath-errno is 
> otherwise enabled would also be desirable for fma, sqrt, etc.).

then fortran can only use no-errno functions
when those can be inlined, since extern calls
use the standard libc symbols which set errno
in glibc.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-04 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2017-03-16 13:53 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2017-03-16 14:39   ` Joseph Myers
2017-03-16 14:41     ` Joseph Myers
2017-03-16 18:07     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2017-03-16 18:24       ` Joseph Myers
2017-04-04 17:25         ` Szabolcs Nagy [this message]
2017-04-04 17:34           ` Joseph Myers
2017-04-07 15:54           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2017-04-04 17:41         ` Zack Weinberg
2017-03-16 21:22   ` Florian Weimer
2017-03-16 21:36     ` Joseph Myers
2017-03-16 22:49       ` Wilco Dijkstra

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