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From: "Zack Weinberg" <zack@owlfolio.org>
To: "Siddhesh Poyarekar" <siddhesh@gotplt.org>,
	"Xi Ruoyao" <xry111@xry111.site>,
	"GNU libc development" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Cc: "Adhemerval Zanella" <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	"Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
	"'Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)'" <alx.manpages@gmail.com>,
	"Andreas Schwab" <schwab@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] libio: Add nonnull attribute for most FILE * arguments in stdio.h
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 14:56:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <60947356-1710-4658-9169-9535505befd4@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed86d013-1df5-2880-3e39-0caf8f49a999@gotplt.org>

On Mon, Jul 10, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
> On 2023-07-10 13:12, Zack Weinberg wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2023, at 12:13 PM, Xi Ruoyao via Libc-alpha wrote:
>>> During the review of a GCC analyzer test case, we found most stdio
>>> functions accepting a FILE * argument expect it to be nonnull and
>>> just segfault when the argument is NULL.  Add nonnull attribute
>>> for them.
>>
>> I think this patchset has a high risk of breaking application code,
>> because "this function will promptly crash if passed a NULL pointer"
>> is a very different property from "any code path that would cause
>> this function to be passed a NULL pointer is necessarily
>> unreachable."
>>
>> If we take it at all -- and my current gut feeling is that we
>> *shouldn't* -- we should do so early in a release cycle to give us
>> the best chance of discovering broken applications before the
>> release.
>
> Thanks for your comment; it made me take a closer look at this.  I
> suppose it makes sense to push it in right after we tag 2.38 then, so
> that there's the rest of the year to test and fix broken applications
> before 2.39.

That would be fine with me.

> Would it be more acceptable to you if this gets wrapped into fortify,
> i.e. it gets enabled if _FORTIFY_SOURCE is defined?

I tend to agree with Xi that having the presence of __nonnull depend on
_FORTIFY_SOURCE would cause more problems than it solves.  Also, since
several Linux distributions enable _FORTIFY_SOURCE by default, we'd
still be risking significant breakage if we shipped that in 2.38.

> In fact, the wrappers in stdio2.h and the _chk variants of those
> functions should likely also get the __nonnull annotation.

Yes, divergence between the _chk variants and the unfortified variants
should be avoided as much as possible.

zw

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-10 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-10 16:13 Xi Ruoyao
2023-07-10 17:12 ` Zack Weinberg
2023-07-10 17:27   ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-07-10 19:06     ` Zack Weinberg
2023-07-10 19:31       ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-07-10 17:51   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-07-10 18:41     ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-07-10 20:14       ` _Nullable and _Nonnull in GCC's analyzer (was: [PATCH v5] libio: Add nonnull attribute for most FILE * arguments in stdio.h) Alejandro Colomar
2023-07-10 20:16         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-08 10:01           ` Martin Uecker
2023-08-09  0:14             ` enh
2023-08-09  1:11               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-08-09  7:26               ` Martin Uecker
2023-08-09 10:42                 ` ISO C's [static] (was: _Nullable and _Nonnull in GCC's analyzer) Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-09 12:03                   ` Martin Uecker
2023-08-09 12:37                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-09 14:24                       ` Martin Uecker
2023-08-09 13:46                   ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-08-11 23:34                 ` _Nullable and _Nonnull in GCC's analyzer (was: [PATCH v5] libio: Add nonnull attribute for most FILE * arguments in stdio.h) enh
2023-07-10 18:56     ` Zack Weinberg [this message]
2023-07-10 19:31       ` [PATCH v5] libio: Add nonnull attribute for most FILE * arguments in stdio.h Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-07-10 19:35         ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-07-10 19:46           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-07-10 20:23             ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-07-10 20:33               ` Jeff Law
2023-07-10 20:44                 ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-07-10 20:55                 ` Zack Weinberg
2023-07-10 21:03                   ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-07-10 21:22                     ` Zack Weinberg
2023-07-10 21:33                       ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-07-11 19:12                         ` Zack Weinberg
2023-07-11 20:12                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-07-12  8:59                             ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-07-10 22:09                       ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-11 19:18                         ` Zack Weinberg
2023-07-11 20:45                           ` Jeff Law
2023-07-11 23:59                             ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-12  2:40                               ` Jeff Law
2023-07-10 22:48                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-07-11  0:45                         ` Sam James
2023-07-10 21:51                   ` Jeff Law
2023-07-11 13:03                     ` Cristian Rodríguez
2023-07-10 22:34                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-07-10 22:59                   ` Jeff Law
2023-07-11  0:51         ` Sam James

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