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From: "Theo de Raadt" <deraadt@openbsd.org>
To: rsbecker@nexbridge.com
Cc: "'Alejandro Colomar \(man-pages\)'" <alx.manpages@gmail.com>,
	"'Libc-alpha'" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	"'linux-man'" <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, tech@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Is getpass(3) really obsolete?
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 07:55:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <63238.1635515736@cvs.openbsd.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00d501d7ccbe$0169c340$043d49c0$@nexbridge.com>

<rsbecker@nexbridge.com> wrote:

> On October 29, 2021 7:29 AM, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> > On 10/29/21 13:15, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > As the manual pages says, SUSv2 marked it as LEGACY, and POSIX doesn't
> > > have it at all.  The manual page goes further and says "This function
> > > is obsolete. Do not use it." in its first lines.
> > >
> > > But, glibc doesn't seem to have deprecated this function at all.  And
> > > it seems to be the most portable way to get a password, even if it's
> > > not in POSIX.
> > >
> > > BSDs have readpassphrase(3), but glibc doesn't, so unless you
> > > recommend
> > 
> > OpenBSD also marks getpass(3) as obsolete and recommends
> > readpassphrase(3):
> > <https://man.openbsd.org/getpass>
> > 
> > > using readpassphrase(3) from libbsd, or plan to add it to glibc, I
> > > think
> > > getpass(3) should be the recommended function in Linux, and therefore
> > > we should remove the hard words against it.
> > >
> > > As a real example, git(1) uses getpass(3).
> > > <https://github.com/git/git/blob/master/compat/terminal.c>
> > >
> > > What are your thoughts?
> 
> getpass() is obsolete in POSIX.2. However, some platforms still are on POSIX.1, so replacing it instead of providing a configure detection/switch for it might cause issues.


The community finally had the balls to get rid of gets(3).

getpass(3) shares the same flaw, that the buffer size isn't passed.
This has been an issue in the past, and incorrectly led to readpassphrase(3)

readpassphrase(3) has a few too many features/extensions for my taste, but
at least it is harder to abuse.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-29 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-29 11:15 Alejandro Colomar
2021-10-29 11:28 ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-10-29 11:40   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-29 12:11     ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-10-29 16:31       ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-30 12:24         ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-11-01 21:31           ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-29 12:10   ` rsbecker
2021-10-29 13:55     ` Eugene Syromyatnikov
2021-10-29 13:55     ` Theo de Raadt [this message]
2021-10-29 14:18       ` rsbecker
2021-10-29 14:21         ` Theo de Raadt
2021-10-29 14:33           ` rsbecker
2021-10-29 14:44             ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-10-29 15:00               ` rsbecker
2021-10-29 14:53       ` Zack Weinberg
2022-09-27 19:19         ` readpassphrase(3) in glibc, and agetpass() (Was: Is getpass(3) really obsolete?) Alejandro Colomar
2022-09-27 19:33           ` Alex Colomar
2022-09-27 20:30           ` Sam James
2022-09-27 21:00             ` Zack Weinberg
2022-09-27 22:41               ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-09-27 20:52           ` readpassphrase(3) in glibc, and agetpass() Junio C Hamano
2021-10-29 15:27   ` [PATCH] getpass.3: SYNOPSIS: Mark getpass() as [[deprecated]] Alejandro Colomar
2021-10-29 20:27   ` Is getpass(3) really obsolete? Jeff King

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