From: Ralf Jung <post@ralfj.de>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Support for memcpy with equal source and destination
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:15:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <69271612-79a5-43c6-9fc7-fb2461c5d39f@ralfj.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e6eb1ab-9a9d-4b69-ae49-4805ee7cdce8@cs.ucla.edu>
Hi all,
> On 2023-11-25 00:20, Ralf Jung wrote:
>> For a memcpy that is implemented in C (rather than assembly), I don't think it
>> is possible to make this promise (of supporting src==dest) when there is
>> "restrict" in the signature.
>
> Actually it is possible, though it costs a conditional branch compared to the
> naive approach that generally would work anyway.
Ah, true, I forgot about that option.
However, at that point it seems unclear why that branch should live inside
`memcpy`, rather than being performed by the caller. The entire argument made
all along by compiler developers (as I understood it) was that the existing
`memcpy` are already working fine for the src==dest case; if new branches need
to be added, that's a different discussion.
This probably needs benchmark to determine on which side the branch is less
expensive overall? Or a dedicated memcpy variant that allows src==dest, as has
been brought up elsewhere.
> When n is zero, this implementation also supports NULL dest or src, though
> that's a separate issue.
Yeah I'd like to see that guarantee as well, if possible. :)
Kind regards,
Ralf
>
>
>> when one sees restrict in a signature, it is impossible to tell what the
>> actual constraint is without further documentation: the function needs to say
>> which memory is being accesses through which pointer, and *that* is then where
>> the disjointness comes from.
>
> True, and one could document the new guarantee along those lines. Writing the
> documentation could be a bit tricky, though, as one needs to explain all this
> stuff clearly without being too prolix.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-27 11:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-23 12:14 Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-11-25 7:48 ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-25 8:20 ` Ralf Jung
2023-11-25 17:11 ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-27 11:15 ` Ralf Jung [this message]
2023-11-27 11:46 ` Alexander Monakov
2023-11-27 12:34 ` Ralf Jung
2023-11-27 14:25 ` Alexander Monakov
2023-11-27 14:38 Wilco Dijkstra
2023-11-27 14:45 ` Ralf Jung
2023-11-27 14:53 ` Zack Weinberg
2023-11-27 15:02 ` enh
2023-11-27 19:28 Aaron Peter Bachmann
2023-11-27 19:39 ` Paul Eggert
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