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From: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
To: Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com>
Cc: DJ Delorie <dj@redhat.com>, libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke
Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 12:08:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <69e72354-f372-083f-f778-e97133c035af@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <orr2mmsqkx.fsf@lxoliva.fsfla.org>

On 05/08/2018 12:45 AM, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> On May  7, 2018, "Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 05/07/2018 12:45 PM, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>>> I did get a (private) nod from our most senior maintainer, and no
>>> objections.
> 
>> Let me be clear here. You had many objections. Including those from
>> me as a GNU project maintainer.
> 
> I think I understand why you might think so, but I really did not.
> 
> You wrote:
> 
>   Until we reach some kind of consensus the joke will not go back into
>   the glibc manual according to the current community consensus rules.
> 
> but we *did* reach consensus, under the present rules, about my proposal
> to restore the initial state, therefore the condition that limited your
> objection above was met.
No. You didn't. No weasel wording gets you out of this.

You can believe what you wish, but you've been told you did not follow the
rules for the community. Told by multiple people. It's really quite clear,
you just need to be transparent about what you're going to do, post a patch
about the reversal, and allow people to review it.

That's OK. You don't have to. You're a GNU package maintainer.

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-08 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 269+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2018-05-01  3:03 ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-01 13:54   ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-02  0:30     ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-02  3:28       ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-02  6:37         ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-03  3:34           ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-03  3:34           ` ISO standards Richard Stallman
2018-05-02 19:08         ` [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke Zack Weinberg
2018-05-03  0:28           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-03  2:33             ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-03  6:08               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-05 15:44                 ` Federico Leva (Nemo)
2018-05-04  4:22               ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Richard Stallman
2018-05-07  1:48                 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-03  2:49           ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-03  0:55         ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-05 11:45         ` @cartouche (was: [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke) Dmitry V. Levin
2018-05-06  3:05           ` @cartouche Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-02  3:11     ` [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke Richard Stallman
2018-05-02  6:26       ` Ondřej Bílka
2018-05-02  6:36         ` Rical Jasan
2018-05-02  7:00         ` Javier Serrano Polo
2018-05-02  7:16           ` Rical Jasan
2018-05-03  3:34           ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-03  3:34         ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Richard Stallman
2018-05-01 14:18   ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-02  3:09     ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-03 10:48       ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-01 14:45   ` Zach van Rijn
2018-05-02  3:08     ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]   ` <2e49b0b7f6ba587e0a5d08e701212fd4@airmail.cc>
2018-05-01 14:53     ` rain1
2018-05-01 15:40   ` Rich Felker
2018-05-01 16:12   ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-02  3:11     ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-02 19:03       ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-04  4:18         ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-02 19:56       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-04  4:20         ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-04  6:52           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-04 10:02             ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-04 10:18               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-07  2:01             ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-07  3:09               ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-07  9:29               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-07 20:21               ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-07 20:42                 ` Federico Leva (Nemo)
2018-05-07 21:26                   ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-03  4:36       ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-03  7:01         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-03 11:07           ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-05-07 23:44             ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-05-08  1:00               ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-03 13:53           ` Jeff Law
2018-05-03 12:28         ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-03 20:58           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-03 23:59             ` Zach van Rijn
2018-05-05  4:49               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-04  1:09             ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-05  4:18               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-06 19:01                 ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-06 19:17                   ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-06 20:19                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-06 22:56                     ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-07  0:07                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07  0:50                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-07  1:07                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07  2:03                             ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-07  4:41                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07  6:13                                 ` DJ Delorie
2018-05-07 16:46                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07 18:30                                     ` DJ Delorie
2018-05-07 18:36                                       ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-07 18:41                                         ` Jeff Law
2018-05-07 19:00                                           ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-05-07 19:28                                             ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-07 22:09                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07 20:48                                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08  4:45                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  8:27                                         ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 12:08                                         ` Carlos O'Donell [this message]
2018-05-08 10:06                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 10:36                                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 11:36                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 12:03                                             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 12:09                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 13:08                                                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 14:03                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 14:17                                                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 14:26                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 14:36                                                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08 15:01                                                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 16:32                                                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 18:58                                                             ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 14:21                                                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08 14:27                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 14:36                                                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08 12:18                                             ` commit reversion without review (was: [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke) Dmitry V. Levin
2018-05-08 16:22                                               ` commit reversion without review Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10  1:48                                                 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2018-05-10  5:21                                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10  5:53                                                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08 12:32                                         ` [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08 12:45                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 12:57                                             ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08 14:37                                             ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08 16:36                                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 19:08                                             ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 19:28                                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 20:21                                                 ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09  2:26                                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-09 10:32                                                     ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 21:47                                                 ` Maurizio Manfredini
2018-05-07 13:07                                 ` [PATCH] Revert Abortion joke removal Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-07 21:19                                   ` [PATCH] Revert Abort " Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07 21:41                                     ` DJ Delorie
2018-05-08  0:05                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  4:46                                       ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-07 22:09                                   ` [PATCH] Revert Abortion " Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07 22:39                                     ` DJ Delorie
2018-05-07 23:45                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07 23:51                                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-05-08  0:46                                           ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08  1:08                                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  5:04                                             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 15:20                                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 16:25                                                 ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 17:51                                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 17:54                                                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 18:25                                                       ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-08 19:34                                                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 19:54                                                           ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-08 20:08                                                             ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-09  2:40                                                             ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 19:57                                                           ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-09  1:16                                                             ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10  3:52                                                               ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-10  4:41                                                                 ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10  5:55                                                                   ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-10  6:49                                                                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 20:38                                                           ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 18:32                                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 20:34                                                     ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 17:19                                                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 18:15                                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 20:09                                                     ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09  3:04                                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-09 10:52                                                         ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09 17:12                                                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-09  6:25                                                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09 17:12                                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-09 17:46                                                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09 23:51                                                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10  2:32                                                             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-10  4:53                                                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 10:10                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 10:28                                             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 16:28                                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 17:33                                                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 18:38                                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 19:28                                                 ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09 18:22                                                 ` Jeff Law
2018-05-10  6:13                                                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-10 11:06                                                   ` Chester Gregg
2018-05-08  8:13                                         ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08  2:04                                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08  5:12                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  5:18                                         ` Matt Turner
2018-05-08 15:19                                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  8:44                                         ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-07  2:03                     ` [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke Richard Stallman
2018-05-08 15:55                       ` Joseph Myers
2018-05-09 19:56                         ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-05-07  6:55                   ` Paul Eggert
2018-05-07 19:18                     ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-07 19:57                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-06  3:17               ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-06 18:00                 ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-06 18:04                   ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-06 18:14                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-06 18:29                       ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-06 19:20                     ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-07  2:03                     ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-07 19:29                       ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-07 23:51                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07 23:56                           ` Zach van Rijn
2018-05-08  0:11                           ` Lets add a joke to the manual Mark Wielaard
2018-05-08  1:28                             ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  1:41                               ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08  5:13                                 ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  9:07                               ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08  3:28                           ` Delete abortion joke Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08  4:46                           ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-11 16:12                             ` [PATCH] manual: Improve quality of comic content in abort [BZ #23168] Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-11 17:20                               ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-11 17:46                                 ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-11 20:21                                   ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-11 21:46                                   ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                       ` <1525713151.19750.28.camel@jasp.net>
2018-05-08  1:55                         ` Delete abortion joke Richard Stallman
2018-05-07  2:03                   ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Richard Stallman
2018-05-07  2:22                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-07  2:04               ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-04  2:56             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-04 16:32               ` Rich Felker
2018-05-04 16:40                 ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-05  4:07                 ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Richard Stallman
2018-05-05  4:06               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-05  7:40                 ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-05 12:19                 ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-06  3:16                   ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-06  5:03                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-06  3:17               ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-07  7:45                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08  1:53                   ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-07 20:56             ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-07 21:29               ` Federico Leva (Nemo)
2018-05-07 23:25               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  9:26                 ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 16:17                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 17:40                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 18:55                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-09  5:51                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09 17:12                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-09 17:50                             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09 23:09                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10  0:28                                 ` DJ Delorie
2018-05-10  5:03                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10  2:57                                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-10 11:43                                 ` Chester Gregg
2018-05-08 20:41                     ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09  2:38                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-09  9:28                         ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09 17:12                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07 22:08             ` William Pitcock
2018-05-08  1:56               ` gag rule joke Richard Stallman
2018-05-08  3:26                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09  3:39                   ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-09  5:29                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09  8:42                     ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09  9:00                       ` Chester Gregg
2018-05-09 23:58                         ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-09 11:06                       ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-09 12:09                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09 13:55                           ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-09 14:48                             ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09 23:57                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10 11:33                                 ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-11  2:34                                   ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-11  1:32                   ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-11  1:58                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-05-11  3:58                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08  9:43                 ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09  3:34                   ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-09  8:34                     ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09 10:59                       ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-09 12:05                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09 12:34                         ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-04  4:20           ` [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke Richard Stallman
2018-05-04  9:25             ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-05  4:05               ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-08 10:55         ` Christian Brauner
     [not found]   ` <CAAKybw_h991qCFcLo1orG41gUOq3K-nur4mpn0ZO0Q832OhsoQ@mail.gmail.com>
2018-05-01 15:52     ` Ryan S. Arnold
2018-05-02  3:07     ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-03 15:00   ` DJ Delorie
2018-05-03 17:05     ` Javier Serrano Polo
2018-05-05  4:02       ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-05  4:03     ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Richard Stallman
2018-05-07 19:53       ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-07 21:32   ` William Pitcock
2018-05-07 20:10 Patsy Franklin

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