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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <874koycuv5.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: libc-alpha@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libc-alpha mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 19:25:40 -0000 On 19/08/2020 16:13, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Adhemerval Zanella via Libc-alpha: > >> But is it really a useful hardening, even for SUID binaries? The >> check_one_fd only check if the file descriptor is opened and redirects >> it to /dev/full otherwise. It does really 'protect' if a constructor >> or a LD_PRELOAD redirects the STD*_FILENO to something else. > > The protection is against messages intended for standard input and > standard error showing up in explicitly open files (which would > otherwise receive descriptors 3 and higher). This is not too > far-fetched, given that such messages could well have parts that are > under control of a different user. > Yes, but in which scenario this is really a vector of attack? One could still open/close/dup to redirect the messages.