From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBD93858D33 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2023 19:54:45 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org CDBD93858D33 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gentoo.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0F145334-8268-4854-A5B6-84067418F2A6"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.300.101.1.3\)) Subject: Re: time64 / Large File Support: 2) default time64 breaks legacy 32bit binaries From: Sam James In-Reply-To: <119ADDA5-39E5-40EF-84CB-6524E20D8D36@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 19:54:31 +0000 Cc: Adhemerval Zanella Netto , Libc-alpha Message-Id: <7E7D8ACE-4095-4A91-AAD7-807D7CBB221D@gentoo.org> References: <10857996.18pcnM708K@pinacolada> <7196595.N7aMVyhfb1@pinacolada> <7271eb94-b5d7-69d6-9be0-ca1afda29a50@cs.ucla.edu> <2342ab66-6ac6-17d8-3693-8e2fd93fc8a1@linaro.org> <87bkmdwdv8.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> <119ADDA5-39E5-40EF-84CB-6524E20D8D36@gentoo.org> To: Florian Weimer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.300.101.1.3) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,JMQ_SPF_NEUTRAL,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: --Apple-Mail=_0F145334-8268-4854-A5B6-84067418F2A6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On 1 Feb 2023, at 19:47, Sam James via Libc-alpha = wrote: > [snip] >=20 > Then we're back to: > 1. How do we stop people doing it dangerously? > 2. How do we enable distributions interested in supporting > cases where the hardware only works for 32-bit & they can > rebuild their userland in its entirety? >=20 > If we don't want to do 2. yet, then we need to figure out > something for 1. Saying "wait because there aren't > the resources to make the migration sane yet" would > work. One more thing: I'm fine with us saying to wait, because ideally we'd be done (lol) with Modern C porting first, because implicit function declarations affect doing mass- rebuilds anyway if someone is doing this via the package manager rather than hard-changing the glibc default. --Apple-Mail=_0F145334-8268-4854-A5B6-84067418F2A6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iNUEARYKAH0WIQQlpruI3Zt2TGtVQcJzhAn1IN+RkAUCY9rDd18UgAAAAAAuAChp c3N1ZXItZnByQG5vdGF0aW9ucy5vcGVucGdwLmZpZnRoaG9yc2VtYW4ubmV0MjVB NkJCODhERDlCNzY0QzZCNTU0MUMyNzM4NDA5RjUyMERGOTE5MAAKCRBzhAn1IN+R kIIuAP46B+Nb1LW+zdaxQGCWBnXJZ0WkMHi95dF/LPvdoFt1OQD/R7oGoUNxebYg mvK6M4getV33Z3NHlTYuzVRbZGulaAM= =3oVc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_0F145334-8268-4854-A5B6-84067418F2A6--