From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
Cc: "H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86-64: Restore LD_PREFER_MAP_32BIT_EXEC support [BZ #28656]
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2022 15:29:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871qtqood7.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMe9rOoVF0YOt_76LqPXPxjQwAmW_0qDVDS2zWY1xzLcO2D5Hg@mail.gmail.com> (H. J. Lu's message of "Fri, 5 Aug 2022 14:53:23 -0700")
* H. J. Lu:
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 1:00 AM Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> * H. J. Lu via Libc-alpha:
>>
>> > Crossing 2GB boundaries with indirect calls and jumps can use more
>> > branch prediction resources on several Intel CPUs. There is visible
>> > performance improvement on workloads with many PLT calls when executable
>> > and shared libraries are mmapped below 2GB. Add the Prefer_MAP_32BIT_EXEC
>> > bit so that mmap will try to map executable or denywrite pages with
>> > MAP_32BIT first.
>> >
>> > NB: Prefer_MAP_32BIT_EXEC reduces bits available for address space
>> > layout randomization (ASLR), which is always disabled for SUID programs
>> > and can only be enabled by setting environment variable,
>> > LD_PREFER_MAP_32BIT_EXEC.
>>
>> If the performance benefits are significant, this should be handled at
>> the kernel level. Only the kernel can put the main program, ld.so and
>> the vDSO into the same 2GB window (presumably with the main program at
>> the top, so that the heap can grow almost indefinitely).
>
> ld.so and vDSO aren't performance sensitive. But we need to handle PIE.
I don't think this is necessarily true. It depends on execution
profile.
clock_gettime in the vDSO could certainly matter to some workloads.
>> For mapping shared objects, we can give the kernel a hint that they will
>> eventually contain an executable mapping. If the kernel could reuse
>> MAP_DENYWRITE for that, no glibc changes would be needed after all.
>>
>> Doing this is in glibc is only a very partial solution, and so I'd
>> appreciate if it could be fixed properly in the kernel.
>>
>
> There is no easy way for kernel to selectively mmap PIE with MAP_32BIT.
> Can ld.so re-exec PIE with "ld.so PIE" so that ld.so can mmap PIE with
> MAP_32BIT?
In theory, yes, but that still leaves the vDSO issue. The kernel could
cover that as well.
Regarding the performance issue, does everything have to be in the first
2 GiB or 4 GiB, or is it sufficient if everything is in the same
+/- 2 GiB window?
Thanks,
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-08 13:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-01 19:51 H.J. Lu
2022-08-02 8:00 ` Florian Weimer
2022-08-05 21:53 ` H.J. Lu
2022-08-08 13:29 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2022-08-08 17:02 ` H.J. Lu
2023-01-26 17:22 H.J. Lu
2023-02-09 14:35 ` Florian Weimer
2023-02-10 16:50 ` H.J. Lu
2023-02-10 21:54 ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-02-10 22:22 ` H.J. Lu
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