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From: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
To: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
Cc: "Florian Weimer" <fw@deneb.enyo.de>, "Sam James" <sam@gentoo.org>,
	"Frank Scheiner" <frank.scheiner@web.de>,
	"Adhemerval Zanella" <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	"Tomáš Glozar" <tglozar@gmail.com>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove ia64-linux-gnu
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:33:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875y2eon88.fsf@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fca3dd5b-58b1-ab6f-bb7e-0ef17a872d11@redhat.com>


Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> writes:

> On 11/4/23 17:44, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> * Sam James:
>> 
>>> Also, I worry that this might make things tricky to backport later for
>>> older glibc branches. Regardless of what happens with ia64 being
>>> maintained out of tree or not, we don't intend on removing it from Gentoo
>>> immediately - possibly (although I don't make a promise here) as late as
>>> when the last LTS kernel supporting it ages out. I'd prefer to not have
>>> to pin ia64 to an older glibc and keep testing that branch just for one
>>> arch.
>> 
>> Could those who want to keep ia64 support at least set up a
>> cross-builder (preferably both post-commit and pre-commit)?  Once
>> kernel support is gone from mainline, we'll have to remove it from the
>> default build-many-glibcs.py configuration, so we'll lose build
>> coverage.
>> 
>
> The follow-on problem is that there is no upstream ABI, and so downstream has to make
> those ABI decisions? I would rather we *not* make those ABI decisions, and if ia64
> is ever put back into upstream we can just "catch up" and adopt the ABI pieces as they
> are defined by the official upstream kernel.
>
> I think the best option here is for downstreams to pin glibc at 2.38 and use that for
> the lifetime of the Linux 6.6 LTS, which is likely all the way to 2028.

I wanted to raise the point but I don't really have an objection as long
as we've considered the bits I raised (and we have). Thanks.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-06 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-04 19:02 Adhemerval Zanella
2023-11-04 19:59 ` Frank Scheiner
2023-11-04 20:14   ` Sam James
2023-11-04 21:44     ` Florian Weimer
2023-11-06 12:29       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-11-06 15:04       ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-11-06 16:28         ` Florian Weimer
2023-11-06 16:54           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-11-06 16:33         ` Sam James [this message]
2023-11-06 11:48   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-11-06 15:48 ` Carlos O'Donell

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