From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [170.10.133.124]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4BC03858D20 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2023 16:20:06 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org D4BC03858D20 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=redhat.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1693585206; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=INPEqFlAqynh1b3LGzMJcrJr5oLhtwdQh+SFkcl+PNM=; b=hqoerUJm1IHlNha31s2XKwJ5Z3DCQRzk/B2O3MaJj/nranI4xIeM+3qBYAQcRQ1fix/Xjz LQW+2buFIb2Yo6vKqMyJqd7OKVz7Ui9/0j/ttTK3pigb5gpbze4BJeGDAmbvTQSKMwZKej 0cueRkLaHBRtDvIG+IdQYr8OE9Imt4k= Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mimecast-mx02.redhat.com [66.187.233.88]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-638-rXmiG-ANMo-IMga_yLtFLg-1; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 12:20:02 -0400 X-MC-Unique: rXmiG-ANMo-IMga_yLtFLg-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 341A9897F57; Fri, 1 Sep 2023 16:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (unknown [10.22.8.12]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7449440EED01; Fri, 1 Sep 2023 16:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=vm-rhel7) by redhat.com with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qc6sE-00051A-Dw; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 12:19:55 -0400 From: fche@redhat.com (Frank Ch. Eigler) To: Sam James Cc: Siddhesh Poyarekar , Paul Eggert , Mark Wielaard , Jakub Jelinek , libc-alpha@sourceware.org, Andreas Schwab , Joseph Myers , Maxim Kuvyrkov Subject: Re: [Action Required] glibc decision to use CTI services. References: <15af1715-3530-7c29-7595-5abe48c18e8b@cs.ucla.edu> <87ledqe8ej.fsf@gentoo.org> <43743bb5-e79e-f915-9528-4b3556de1c5c@gotplt.org> <87sf7yc4py.fsf@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2023 12:19:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87sf7yc4py.fsf@gentoo.org> (Sam James's message of "Fri, 01 Sep 2023 16:01:02 +0100") Message-ID: <875y4tuaqd.fsf@redhat.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.1 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: sam wrote: > [...] I can see the advantage in dedicated devops and service > isolation - although I don't know if sw has given an opinion on > whether they can do service isolation. [...] For what it's worth, I don't recall seeing an actual complete worked-out plan for precisely what kinds of isolation are desired (never mind why), and how they would all be provided at LF. Therefore, it has not been possible for sourceware folks to contemplate providing an equivalent. - FChE