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From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: nmanthey@conp-solutions.com
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org,  Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [[RFC][PATCH] v1 0/2] malloc/realloc with transparent huge page support
Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 10:27:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877dxsw1eu.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7bd30e6c-7ae8-4c03-a818-6309351b3df9@email.android.com> (nmanthey's message of "Mon, 04 May 2020 09:27:14 +0200")

* nmanthey:

>> Still, it is easier to change a run-time kernel setting than to 
>> upgrade glibc. 
>
> That is something I do not have control over. Hence, I would offer
> the ability to running processes. Statically linked binaries could
> come with their own modified glibc; and for such a purpose these
> patches are valuable. There might also be scenarios where not all
> processes should get huge pages, so being able to enable this on a
> per-process level looks reasonable to me.

I'm not sure if it is a good idea to work around kernel problems in
glibc just because it happens to work in your setup, given your local
constraints.

It may be time for per-namespace/cgroups settings for hugepages,
though.

>> I suggest to repeat the experiment with "always".  There is a reason 
>> why this setting exists.  The results presented so far are incomplete. 
>>
>> The paper doesn't provide details on the NUMA configuration of the 
>> test system, so one has to wonder if there are any surprises there as 
>> well. 
>
> I agree, and I can look up the numa configuration. Even with less
> performance increase, as a unprivileged user, I would like to enable
> THP.
>
> Do you have a specific ask of what else should be measured?

I'm not a virtual memory management or performance expert.  I will ask
around.

The immediate problem I see is that requesting transparent hugepages
in this way forces the kernel to perform more aggressive
defragmentation, which can hurt overall system performance if
processes are shortlived.

       reply	other threads:[~2020-05-04  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <7bd30e6c-7ae8-4c03-a818-6309351b3df9@email.android.com>
2020-05-04  8:27 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2020-05-04 13:31   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-09-23 22:12   ` [[PATCH] v2 0/1] " Norbert Manthey
2020-09-23 22:13     ` [[PATCH] v2 1/1] malloc: support transparent huge pages Norbert Manthey
2020-05-03 22:07 [[RFC][PATCH] v1 0/2] malloc/realloc with transparent huge page support Norbert Manthey
2020-05-03 22:15 ` H.J. Lu
2020-05-04  4:36 ` Florian Weimer
2020-05-04  6:58   ` Norbert Manthey
2020-05-04  7:07     ` Florian Weimer
2020-05-04 21:07 ` DJ Delorie
2020-05-04 21:44   ` Norbert Manthey

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