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From: Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org>
To: Don Barry <don@sirtf.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: delete abortion joke
Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 03:06:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878t8uyhg8.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56f702bc-8cf9-712d-a913-ae3fb72bdff3@sirtf.com> (Don Barry's message of "Mon, 7 May 2018 20:46:36 -0400")

Don Barry <don@sirtf.com> writes:

> My guess is that none of those criticizing Richard here are actually
> members of the FSF.  Yes, they are employed to work on FSF projects, but
> their decision was made by corporate interests, not by solidarity with
> the interests on the principles upon which the FSF was founded.

Speaking as someone who is not a glibc maintainer or contributor (just a
user and an interested bystander), but who has been an FSF associate
member and financial supporter for fifteen years, I think Carlos is doing
an excellent job managing this conflict and completely agree with the
approach that he's taking.  He's trying to avoid binary choices, dig
deeper into the motivations of the conflicted parties, and look for
creative alternative solutions, and he's doing a much better job at it
than I would have managed.

For whatever it's worth (which I don't think is a ton, but since you
specifically called out FSF members such as myself), I have been delighted
with the community consensus model that has been used for glibc
development of late and think it serves the mission of the FSF extremely
well, including in steering the delicate path between empowering active
contributors and avoiding giving those funded to contribute as part of
their jobs too heavy a hand.

-- 
Russ Allbery (eagle@eyrie.org)              <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-08  3:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-08  0:46 Don Barry
2018-05-08  1:28 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08  4:05   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  2:26 ` DJ Delorie
2018-05-08  3:06 ` Russ Allbery [this message]
2018-05-08 10:10 ` Torvald Riegel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-05-03 15:00 [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete " DJ Delorie
2018-05-03 17:05 ` Javier Serrano Polo
2018-05-05  4:02   ` Richard Stallman
     [not found] <orin883lcl.fsf@lxoliva.fsfla.org>
2018-05-01  3:03 ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Richard Stallman
2018-05-01 13:54   ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-02  3:11     ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-02  6:26       ` Ondřej Bílka
2018-05-02  7:00         ` Javier Serrano Polo
2018-05-02  7:16           ` Rical Jasan
2018-05-03  3:34           ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-03  6:08             ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-05 15:44               ` Federico Leva (Nemo)
2018-05-01 16:12   ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Zack Weinberg
2018-05-02  3:11     ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-03  4:36       ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-03 12:28         ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-03 20:58           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-04  1:09             ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-06  3:17               ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-06 18:00                 ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-06 18:04                   ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-06 18:14                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-06 18:29                       ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-06 19:20                     ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-07  2:03                     ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-07 19:29                       ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-07 23:51                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07 23:56                           ` Zach van Rijn
2018-05-08  3:28                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08  4:46                           ` Javiera Serrano Polo
     [not found]                       ` <1525713151.19750.28.camel@jasp.net>
2018-05-08  1:55                         ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-04  2:56             ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-04 16:32               ` Rich Felker
2018-05-04 16:40                 ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-05  4:06               ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-05  7:40                 ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-04-28 17:07 rain1
2018-04-28 17:58 ` Zack Weinberg
2018-04-29 15:02   ` Ondřej Bílka
2018-04-29 15:47     ` Zack Weinberg
2018-04-29 17:11       ` Paul Eggert
2018-04-30 12:41   ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-04-30 14:45   ` Zack Weinberg
2018-04-29 15:47 ` Florian Weimer
2018-04-29 15:49   ` Zack Weinberg
2018-04-29 16:12     ` Florian Weimer

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