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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11] syslog: Use a printf buffer directly to construct the entire packet
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 14:02:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cysxc23a.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ba2baea9-a01b-4861-bcf3-305940a52d47@linaro.org> (Adhemerval Zanella Netto's message of "Wed, 14 Feb 2024 12:16:49 -0300")

* Adhemerval Zanella Netto:

> On 09/02/24 12:26, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> This defers buffer management largely to the asprintf implementation.
>> It is quite close to the original implementation around
>> open_memstream, except that an on-stack buffer is used for shorter
>> messages, and that strftime no longer writes directly into the
>> buffer.
>> 
>> The new version no longer uses the (slow) %n format specifier.
>> It also fixes an issue in the localtime_r failure path, where
>> the message is prefixed with ": " due to an incorrect placement
>> of the %n specifier.
>
> What I am not sure if this is really the direction we want for
> internal FILE usage.  I had the impression that the printf buffer
> internal API was mainly meant to improve the old FILE implementation
> and its historical drawnbacks and limitations.  For internal usage we
> would continue to use standard FILE API, should we move to always use
> printf buffers instead?

There are currently no internal uses (that I can see) of _IO_strfile for
writing purposes.  The psiginfo function uses __fmemopen, but that seems
excessive.  The syslog implementation was the only user of
open_memstream.  The reason for the open_memstream removal was
allocation removal, which makes sense for a logging function.

We must have manual constructs that use some printf function variant to
write to temporary buffers elsewhere.  One example is
stdio-common/psignal.c.  I can't find others outside sunrpc/ right now,
but they likely exist.  Switching those to fmemopen/open_memstream would
introduce the allocation issue as well, and dynamically sized printf
buffers could be a replacement.

I know that musl uses its _IO_strfile equivalent in such cases, but our
libio implementation is much more heavyweight, and it's hard to review
if new direct low-level uses of the libio internals are actually
correct.

> I am asking because it is a lot of code and refactoring for a specific
> code that I would like to avoid change due the recent issues.  Most of 
> complication is the static buffer optimization, so maybe we should just
> remove it?

Pretty much all buffer management code is deleted.  We now have even
fewer code of that than in the previous open_memstream-based function.

> Also, since the motivation for this change is just to remove the %n
> requirement, maybe we can just not enable it on syslog instead (since
> we now that the internal calls should not act as a gadget)?  

That doesn't remove the complicated buffer management.

Thanks,
Florian


  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-15 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-09 15:24 [PATCH 00/11] Build getdomainname, gethostname, syslog with fortification Florian Weimer
2024-02-09 15:24 ` [PATCH 01/11] misc: Build getdomainname " Florian Weimer
2024-02-12 17:14   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-12 17:30     ` Andreas Schwab
2024-02-12 19:29       ` Florian Weimer
2024-02-13  9:12         ` Andreas Schwab
2024-02-13  9:23           ` Florian Weimer
2024-02-13  9:32             ` Andreas Schwab
2024-02-09 15:24 ` [PATCH 02/11] misc: Build gethostname " Florian Weimer
2024-02-12 17:25   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 03/11] libio: Add fortify wrapper for internal __snprintf Florian Weimer
2024-02-12 17:34   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-13 12:13     ` Florian Weimer
2024-02-13 13:16       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 04/11] syslog: Update misc/tst-syslog to check reported %n value Florian Weimer
2024-02-13 11:59   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-15 13:23     ` Florian Weimer
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 05/11] syslog: Build with fortification Florian Weimer
2024-02-13 12:26   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 06/11] stdio: Rename __printf_buffer to __vfprintf_buffer Florian Weimer
2024-02-16 13:40   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 07/11] libio: Extract __printf_buffer_asprintf_init from asprintf implementation Florian Weimer
2024-02-16 14:04   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 08/11] stdio-common: Introduce the __printf_buffer function Florian Weimer
2024-02-16 14:12   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 09/11] stdio-common: Allow skipping initial bytes in __printf_buffer for %n Florian Weimer
2024-02-16 14:13   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 10/11] stdio-common: Support large offsets with %lln Florian Weimer
2024-02-16 14:20   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:26 ` [PATCH 11/11] syslog: Use a printf buffer directly to construct the entire packet Florian Weimer
2024-02-14 15:16   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-15 13:02     ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2024-02-16 13:35       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-16 15:58   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto

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