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From: "Arsen Arsenović" <arsen@gentoo.org>
To: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: free(3) const void *
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 18:22:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fryk2ehc.fsf@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZbPRKPSYlvVxaedm@debian>

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Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org> writes:

> [[PGP Signed Part:No public key for 9E8C1AFBBEFFDB32 created at 2024-01-26T16:35:04+0100 using RSA]]
> Hi Arsen,
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 03:24:29PM +0100, Arsen Arsenović wrote:
>> But, free() modifies the object passed to it (even if not its bit
>> representation) by freeing it.  Freeing const-passed objects would also
>> violate the constness promise, so I disagree that free should take const
>> void*.
>
> This is an interesting interpretation.  Is expiring the lifetime of an
> object a modification of the object?  Possibly.
>
> But, the standard says:
>
> 	If an attempt is made to modify an object defined with a
> 	const-qualified type through use of an lvalue with
> 	non-const-qualified type, the behavior is undefined.
>
> Even if you consider expiring the lifetime of the object a modification
> of the object, the part that says "through use of an lvalue with
> non-const-qualified type" is not fulfilled, IMO.  That would reqire
> dereferencing the pointer, to actually get the lvalue, which free(3)
> never does.

What 'free' precisely does is outside the bounds of the standard,
though.  We can assume it is permitted to so since nothing says
otherwise.

But, besides that, what I mean by 'constness promise' is that an object
must be usable following a const usage of it as if that usage never
happened.  This would certainly not be true of 'free', whether it
dereferences or not.  I am not sure if this is a formalism of the
language definition, but it is something people (and AFAIK compilers)
rely on significantly.

Have a lovely night!
--
Arsen Arsenović

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-26 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-26 13:21 Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 14:24 ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-01-26 15:35   ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 17:22     ` Arsen Arsenović [this message]
2024-01-26 17:55       ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-01-26 18:11         ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 20:04           ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-01-26 20:07         ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-01-26 17:40     ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-26 19:45     ` Florian Weimer
2024-01-26 15:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-26 15:33   ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 18:09 ` Russ Allbery
2024-01-26 18:23   ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 18:36     ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-01-26 18:40       ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 18:49         ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-01-26 18:57           ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 18:40     ` Russ Allbery
2024-01-26 18:45       ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 19:41   ` Florian Weimer
2024-01-26 18:39 ` [PATCH] Use [[gnu::access(none)]] on free(3) Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 18:41   ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 21:23     ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-26 23:19       ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-27 13:21       ` Cristian Rodríguez
2024-02-13 15:19         ` Gabriel Ravier
2024-02-13 15:28           ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 21:11 ` free(3) const void * DJ Delorie
2024-01-26 21:30   ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-26 21:47     ` DJ Delorie
2024-01-26 22:07       ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-26 23:25       ` Alejandro Colomar

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