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From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Chris Kennelly <ckennelly@google.com>
Cc: libc-coord@lists.openwall.com,
	 Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	 "carlos@redhat.com" <carlos@redhat.com>,
	 libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	szabolcs.nagy@arm.com
Subject: Re: [libc-coord] Re: RSEQ symbols: __rseq_size, __rseq_flags vs __rseq_feature_size
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2022 23:32:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fsgryphl.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEE+ybkXCYoX73ksO0yutpc+4QZ_RuKnLxquVymzwj01d0=x-g@mail.gmail.com> (Chris Kennelly's message of "Fri, 16 Sep 2022 11:41:39 -0400")

* Chris Kennelly:

>> If the kernel does not currently overwrite the padding, glibc can do
>> its own per-thread initialization there to support its malloc
>> implementation (because the padding is undefined today from an
>> application perspective).  That is, we would initialize these
>> invisible vCPU IDs the same way we assign arenas today.  That would
>> cover this specific malloc use case only, of course.

> If a user program updates to a new kernel before glibc does, would it be
> able to easily take advantage of it?

No, as far as I understand it, there is presently no signaling from
kernel to applications that bypasses the rseq area registration.  So
the only thing you could do is to unregister and re-register with a
compatible value.  And that is of course quite undefined and assumes
that you can do this early enough during the life-time of each thread.

But if we have the extension handshake, I'll expect us to backport it
quite widely, after some time to verify that it works with CRIU etc.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-16 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-16 14:36 Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-16 14:44 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-16 15:29 ` Florian Weimer
2022-09-16 15:41   ` [libc-coord] " Chris Kennelly
2022-09-16 21:32     ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2022-09-17 11:51       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-17 14:45         ` Florian Weimer
2022-09-17 15:25           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-20 11:51     ` Szabolcs Nagy

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