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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] linux: Optimize posix_spawn spurious sigaction calls
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 10:07:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ftlj6k69.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4266b563-5433-8bb9-78a2-af0ff14cab59@linaro.org> (Adhemerval Zanella's message of "Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:26:06 -0300")

* Adhemerval Zanella:

> On 29/08/2019 05:38, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> * Adhemerval Zanella:
>> 
>>> 	* include/atomic.h (atomic_fetch_or_seq_cst, atomic_fetch_or_seq_cst):
>>> 	New macros.
>> 
>> Why isn't a regular release store/acquire load synchronization
>> sufficient here?
>
> It should works, my understanding is a weaker store barrier might incur in
> a slight more false positive in a highly concurrent sigaction call scenario.
> But I assume that this is not a common scenario, so I used the strongest
> barrier just to avoid the extra false positives.

I don't see how false positives are possible.  It would require bits
getting set which have never been added to the mask, which would be a
bug even for relaxed MO (as a QoI issue, the memory model is buggy and
allows this).

My main worry would be reading an outdated value in posix_spawn, but my
understanding is that the release store/acquire load synchronization
avoids that.

>> I wonder if we can get kernel support for this in the new clone system
>> call with more flags.  Then we don't have to complicate the sigaction
>> implementation.
>
> Maybe a CLONE_RESET_SIGNALS where the cloned process sets its signal
> disposition to default SIG_IGN/SIG_DFL values may help us here.  However
> afaik clone now is out of space on 'flags' for newer ones (it already
> defines 24 flags plus it reserve 8 bits for signal to be sent at process
> exit) and it would take time to use this feature on glibc.

Christian Brauner has been working on fixing this.

Thanks,
Florian

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-30 10:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-31 18:31 [PATCH v2 1/5] mips: Do not malloc on getdents64 fallback Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-31 18:31 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] posix: Optimize stack Linux posix_spawn Adhemerval Zanella
2019-08-28 14:09   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-10-07 17:50     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-31 18:31 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] posix: Add posix_spawn_file_actions_closefrom Adhemerval Zanella
2019-08-28 14:09   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-08-28 17:22     ` Joseph Myers
2019-08-28 21:03       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-31 18:31 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] posix: Use posix_spawn for wordexp Adhemerval Zanella
2019-08-28 14:10   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-10-07 17:51     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-10-07 19:33   ` Florian Weimer
2019-10-07 21:04     ` Carlos O'Donell
2019-10-08  9:58       ` Florian Weimer
2019-10-08 17:41     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-10-09  9:11       ` Florian Weimer
2019-10-09 12:18         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-31 18:31 ` [PATCH 4/5] linux: Optimize posix_spawn spurious sigaction calls Adhemerval Zanella
2019-08-28 14:09   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-08-29  8:38   ` Florian Weimer
2019-08-29 11:26     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-08-30 10:07       ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2019-08-30 13:05         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-09-02 13:14           ` Florian Weimer
2019-09-02 19:47             ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-10-07 17:51               ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-10-07 18:25                 ` Christian Brauner
2019-10-07 18:32                   ` Florian Weimer
2019-10-07 21:08                     ` Christian Brauner
2019-10-07 18:35                   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-10-07 18:40                     ` Florian Weimer
2019-10-07 19:20                       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-10-09  9:37                         ` Florian Weimer
2019-10-09 10:25                           ` Christian Brauner
2019-10-09 12:17                           ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-10-09 19:16                             ` Florian Weimer
2019-10-07 21:00                     ` Joseph Myers
2019-10-07 18:41                 ` Florian Weimer
2019-08-28 14:09 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mips: Do not malloc on getdents64 fallback Adhemerval Zanella
2019-08-28 14:35 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-08-28 17:01   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-08-28 14:42 ` Florian Weimer
2019-08-28 21:02   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-08-28 21:23     ` Florian Weimer
2019-08-29 11:04       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-08-30  9:53 ` Florian Weimer
2019-08-30 12:53   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-09-02 12:59     ` Florian Weimer
2019-09-02 17:38       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-10-07 17:49         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-10-07 18:29         ` Florian Weimer
2019-10-08 17:38           ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-10-08 18:52             ` Florian Weimer
2019-10-08 19:52               ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-10-08 19:59                 ` Florian Weimer
2019-10-09 13:02                   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-11-02 19:51             ` Joseph Myers
2020-11-02 22:10               ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-11-03 10:27                 ` Florian Weimer

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