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From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	carlos <carlos@redhat.com>, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ben Maurer <bmaurer@fb.com>, Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Paul <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH glibc 4/8] glibc: Perform rseq(2) registration at C startup and thread creation (v15)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 19:34:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k13ggpmf.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1103782439.4046.1584642531222.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (Mathieu Desnoyers's message of "Thu, 19 Mar 2020 14:28:51 -0400 (EDT)")

* Mathieu Desnoyers:

> ----- On Mar 19, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Florian Weimer fw@deneb.enyo.de wrote:
>
>> * Mathieu Desnoyers:
>> 
>>>> You also need to add an assert that the compiler supports
>>>> __attribute__ ((aligned)) because ignoring it produces an
>>>> ABI-incompatible header.
>>>
>>> Are you aware of some helper macro I should use to do this, or
>>> is it done elsewhere in glibc ?
>> 
>> I don't think we have any such GCC-only types yet.  max_align_t is
>> provided by GCC itself.
>
> I was thinking of adding the following to
>
> sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/rseq-internal.h: rseq_register_current_thread()
>
> +  /* Ensure the compiler supports __attribute__ ((aligned)).  */
> +  _Static_assert (__alignof__ (struct rseq_cs) >= 4 * sizeof(uint64_t),
> +                 "alignment");
> +  _Static_assert (__alignof__ (struct rseq) >= 4 * sizeof(uint64_t),
> +                 "alignment");
> +

Something like it would have to go into the *public* header.

Inside glibc, you can assume __attribute__ support.

>>>> The struct rseq/struct rseq_cs definitions
>>>> are broken, they should not try to change the alignment.
>>>
>>> AFAIU, this means we should ideally not have used __attribute__((aligned))
>>> in the uapi headers in the first place. Why is it broken ?
>> 
>> Compilers which are not sufficiently GCC-compatible define
>> __attribute__(X) as the empty expansion, so you silently get a
>> different ABI.
>
> It is worth noting that rseq.h is not the only Linux uapi header
> which uses __attribute__ ((aligned)), so this ABI problem exists today
> anyway for those compilers.

Yuck.  Even with larger-than-16 alignment?

>> There is really no need to specify 32-byte alignment here.  Is not
>> even the size of a standard cache line.  It can result in crashes if
>> these structs are heap-allocated using malloc, when optimizing for
>> AVX2.
>
> Why would it be valid to allocate those with malloc ? Isn't it the
> purpose of posix_memalign() ?

It would not be valid, but I don't think we have diagnostics for C
like we have them for C++'s operator new.

>>> However, now that it is in the wild, it's a bit late to change that.
>> 
>> I had forgotten about the alignment crashes.  I think we should
>> seriously consider changing the types. 8-(
>
> I don't think this is an option at this stage given that it is part
> of the Linux kernel UAPI. I am not convinced that it is valid at all
> to allocate struct rseq or struct rseq_cs with malloc(), because it
> does not guarantee any alignment.

The kernel ABI doesn't change.  The kernel cannot use the alignment
information anyway.  Userspace struct layout may change in subtle
ways, though.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-19 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-19 14:41 [RFC PATCH glibc 0/8] Restartable Sequences enablement Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-03-19 14:41 ` [RFC PATCH glibc 1/8] Introduce <elf_machine_sym_no_match.h> Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-03-19 14:41 ` [RFC PATCH glibc 2/8] Implement __libc_early_init Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-03-19 14:41 ` [RFC PATCH glibc 3/8] nptl: Start new threads with all signals blocked [BZ #25098] Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-03-19 14:41 ` [RFC PATCH glibc 4/8] glibc: Perform rseq(2) registration at C startup and thread creation (v15) Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-03-19 14:53   ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-19 15:56     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-03-19 16:03       ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-19 18:09         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-03-19 18:16           ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-19 18:28             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-03-19 18:34               ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2020-03-19 18:55                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-03-19 19:05                   ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-19 19:46                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-03-20 13:44                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-03-20 14:47                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-03-19 14:41 ` [RFC PATCH glibc 5/8] glibc: sched_getcpu(): use rseq cpu_id TLS on Linux (v6) Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-03-19 14:41 ` [RFC PATCH glibc 6/8] support record failure: allow use from constructor Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-03-19 14:41 ` [RFC PATCH glibc 7/8] support: implement xpthread key create/delete (v4) Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-03-19 14:41 ` [RFC PATCH glibc 8/8] rseq registration tests (v8) Mathieu Desnoyers

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