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From: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
To: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@gotplt.org>
Cc: Mingye Wang <arthur200126@gmail.com>,
	Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	DJ Delorie <dj@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] malloc_usable_size.3: Warn about _FORTIFY_SOURCE interaction
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2023 01:51:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lej7qhgu.fsf@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fdbd4b16-6e99-ffb6-40c0-85a2b1509222@gotplt.org>

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Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@gotplt.org> writes:

> On 2023-04-04 01:52, Mingye Wang wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> In (somewhat) recent discussions about _FORTIFY_SOURCE level 3, a
>> common snag to hit seems to be abuse of malloc_usable_size(). The
>> attached patch is my attempt at making the situation easier to sort
>> through.
>> See siddhesh's comment on GitHub.[0] I wonder if the language needs
>> to
>> be stronger.
>>    [0]: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/22801#issuecomment-1343041481
>
> For more context of my statement, please see this discussion:
>
> https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2022-November/143599.html
>
> which continued into the next month:
>
> https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2022-December/143667.html
>
> This amendment that DJ wrote is probably the most precise description
> of the current malloc_usage_size situation:
>
>   The value returned by malloc_usable_size() may be greater than the
>   requested size of the allocation because of various internal
>   implementation details, none of which the programmer should rely on.
>   This function is intended to only be used for diagnostics and
>   statistics; writing to the excess memory without first calling
>   realloc() to resize the allocation is not supported.  The returned
>   value is only valid at the time of the call; any other call to a
>   malloc family API may invalidate it.

Honestly, I thought we'd committed that. Oops.


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-05  0:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2023-04-04 11:42 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-05  0:51   ` Sam James [this message]
2023-04-05  2:35   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-05 12:58     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-05 13:55 Wilco Dijkstra
2023-04-05 21:00 ` Alejandro Colomar

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