From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 128367 invoked by alias); 15 Jan 2019 12:17:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact libc-alpha-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: libc-alpha-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 127119 invoked by uid 89); 15 Jan 2019 12:17:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy= X-HELO: mx1.redhat.com From: Florian Weimer To: Torvald Riegel Cc: Carlos O'Donell , "H.J. Lu" , Szabolcs Nagy , libc-alpha Subject: Re: [PATCH] NUMA spinlock [BZ #23962] References: <20181226025019.38752-1-ling.ma@MacBook-Pro-8.local> <7D8A82D6-6F0A-4860-856A-EB0C8CD13E9C@antfin.com> <0a474516-b8c8-48cf-aeea-e57c77b78cbd.ling.ml@antfin.com> <8c67f319-31bf-818b-4a89-66d25328026e@arm.com> <87ef9oe0zf.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> <97275e72-dc1b-fc2a-d908-b94ef7064ed8@redhat.com> <87y37siic1.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> <479415e1-3aba-b456-fc67-0614fbd462a1@redhat.com> <3ff867626ab263d456591509f57de0dc2ef99118.camel@redhat.com> <87ef9e6zb4.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> <61a67a7893382e9db29fe108272da8f9b8924186.camel@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:17:00 -0000 In-Reply-To: <61a67a7893382e9db29fe108272da8f9b8924186.camel@redhat.com> (Torvald Riegel's message of "Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:01:49 +0100") Message-ID: <87pnsy5d3z.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SW-Source: 2019-01/txt/msg00330.txt.bz2 * Torvald Riegel: > What I mean is that applications would have to want to use locks provided > by tbb, whether those are locks/mutexes that exist in tbb today or a new > API that would be added. > > Put differently, I'm not optimistic about tbb being a good way to get > feedback. Do you want to run existing workloads with a new mutex implementation? Then we can't add new flags or change ABI in any way and would have to use a tunable. And to get feedback, we would have to make the new implementation the default, with a tunable to get back the old implementation. Thanks, Florian