From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
Cc: Stefan Liebler via Libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
Stefan Liebler <stli@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] S390: Enable static PIE
Date: Mon, 02 May 2022 21:18:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r15b4ubx.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <760241d4-2f3e-7078-ad98-a4d8ed3fdc69@linaro.org> (Adhemerval Zanella's message of "Mon, 2 May 2022 12:38:35 -0300")
* Adhemerval Zanella:
> On 02/05/2022 06:13, Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha wrote:
>> * Stefan Liebler via Libc-alpha:
>>
>>> This commit enables static PIE on 64bit. On 31bit, static PIE is
>>> not supported.
>>>
>>> - kernel (the mentioned links to the commits belong to 5.19 merge window):
>>> - "s390/mmap: increase stack/mmap gap to 128MB"
>>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/s390/linux.git/commit/?h=features&id=f2f47d0ef72c30622e62471903ea19446ea79ee2
>>> - "s390/vdso: move vdso mapping to its own function"
>>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/s390/linux.git/commit/?h=features&id=57761da4dc5cd60bed2c81ba0edb7495c3c740b8
>>> - "s390/vdso: map vdso above stack"
>>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/s390/linux.git/commit/?h=features&id=9e37a2e8546f9e48ea76c839116fa5174d14e033
>>> - "s390/vdso: add vdso randomization"
>>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/s390/linux.git/commit/?h=features&id=41cd81abafdc4e58a93fcb677712a76885e3ca25
>>> (We can't test the kernel of the target system)
>>> Otherwise if /proc/sys/kernel/randomize_va_space is turned off (0),
>>> static PIE executables like ldconfig will crash. While startup sbrk is
>>> used to enlarge the HEAP. Unfortunately the underlying brk syscall fails
>>> as there is not enough space after the HEAP. Then the address of the TLS
>>> image is invalid and the following memcpy in __libc_setup_tls() leads
>>> to a segfault.
>>> If /proc/sys/kernel/randomize_va_space is activated (default: 2), there
>>> is enough space after HEAP.
>>
>> I'll work an early allocator that does not use the TCB and which should
>> avoid the sbrk crash. Will that be sufficient to enable static PIE
>> binaries to run on unchanged kernels?
>>
>> Otherwise I fear that we end up in a world of pain if we turn ldconfig
>> into a static PIE binary. 8-(
>
>
> I agree that ideally it should not rely a patched kernel to overcome the
> glibc issue of handling sbrk call failures and having a working loader
> allocator that work regardless of kernel version is the best approach.
>
> As I put on weekly call, I would prefer to make it only use mmap as
> for simplicity.
Getting mmap to work is actually the hard part due to six-argument
system call. Trying sbrk first does not add much complexity. I posted
my series:
Linux: Fall back to mmap if early sbrk fails
<https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2022-May/138331.html>
Stefan, I would appreciate if you could check that the kernel fixes are
not strictly required anymore with these changes.
Thanks,
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-02 19:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-28 14:15 Stefan Liebler
2022-05-02 9:13 ` Florian Weimer
2022-05-02 15:38 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-05-02 19:18 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2022-05-03 12:56 ` Stefan Liebler
2022-05-03 15:36 ` Florian Weimer
2022-05-04 13:16 ` Stefan Liebler
2022-05-04 13:39 ` Florian Weimer
2022-05-19 7:49 ` [COMMITTED 2.35] " Stefan Liebler
2022-05-19 15:20 ` [COMMITTED 2.34] " Stefan Liebler
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