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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Cc: наб <nabijaczleweli@nabijaczleweli.xyz>,
	"Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)" <alx.manpages@gmail.com>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, "Zack Weinberg" <zack@owlfolio.org>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] system_data_types.7: note struct timespec::tv_nsec type for x32 and portability
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2021 19:52:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v900nt6x.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2112071841360.426691@digraph.polyomino.org.uk> (Joseph Myers's message of "Tue, 7 Dec 2021 18:43:56 +0000")

* Joseph Myers:

> On Tue, 7 Dec 2021, наб via Libc-alpha wrote:
>
>> Looking through "timespec" on Aardvark for prior art reveals nothing,
>> except for a likely resolution to any proposal of this sort:
>> > Although we agree that it would have been better if these functions had
>> > been designed this way to begin with, we believe that making the change
>> > now will break existing, conforming code with no real benefit. 
>
> Geoff Clare said (austin-group-l, Thu, 29 May 2014 16:20:22 +0100):
>
>   C11 requires tv_nsec to be type long, which means that if we change
>   it to be a new snseconds_t type in Issue 8, we would have to require
>   that snseconds_t is defined as long in order not to conflict with C11.
>
> and Rich Felker (Thu, 29 May 2014 13:08:59 -0400):
>
>   This is just a linux kernel bug which needs to be fixed. They have a
>   number of other such bugs in x32 too. It's possible to work around it
>   in userspace on the library side (we do this in musl libc) but it's a
>   bit costly/painful and glibc does not do so yet. There's an open bug
>   for it which I filed:
>
> and I don't see any other responses in that discussion.

This came up again during the time64 work.  The kernel was eventually
changed to ignore the padding, so userspace can use a long int type.
x32 wasn't changed for backwards compatibility reasons.

Thanks,
Florian


  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-07 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <a6f79435-1d9c-2c12-168b-035164a3b938@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <8ce5f7ace7a64a499d08228c3aeef870310a78ca.1638827989.git.nabijaczleweli@nabijaczleweli.xyz>
2021-12-06 22:56   ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-12-06 23:31     ` наб
2021-12-07  0:18       ` Zack Weinberg
2021-12-07  0:52         ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-12-07  1:41           ` наб
2021-12-07 18:43             ` Joseph Myers
2021-12-07 18:52               ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2021-12-07  0:38       ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-12-07  1:08         ` наб
2021-12-07  1:34           ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)

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