From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [216.205.24.124]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254B33857401 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 12:22:46 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 254B33857401 Received: from mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (mimecast-mx01.redhat.com [209.132.183.4]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-237-GfmK6ULLMhuPFcn0Ql9sYw-1; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 08:22:43 -0400 X-MC-Unique: GfmK6ULLMhuPFcn0Ql9sYw-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04A871052BA3; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 12:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oldenburg.str.redhat.com (ovpn-115-124.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.115.124]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E582419C45; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 12:22:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Florian Weimer To: Andreas Schwab Cc: Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha , Joseph Myers Subject: Re: [PATCH 20/52] login: Add 64-bit time support to utmp/utmpx References: <20210305201518.798584-1-adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org> <20210305201518.798584-21-adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org> <87zgxjnc3u.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> <87k0ok84xe.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> <87v984arvk.fsf@igel.home> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 14:22:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87v984arvk.fsf@igel.home> (Andreas Schwab's message of "Fri, 30 Apr 2021 14:17:35 +0200") Message-ID: <87v98455cy.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.23 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: libc-alpha@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libc-alpha mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 12:22:47 -0000 * Andreas Schwab: > On Apr 30 2021, Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha wrote: > >> True, but even for that, it's been reported (I forgot where I'm afraid) >> that the ut_id field is to short if the straightforward PTY encoding is >> used. Most users are probably interested in sessions (who is not logged >> in), not a list of PTYs and users (which also includes sub-shells in >> Emacs and screen). > > Both Emacs and screen create new sessions for their sub-shells/windows. > But Emacs does not do utmp accouting. Sorry, I meant the higher-level session concept (related to containers and cgroups). That's not something screen nor Emacs do. Thanks, Florian