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From: Stefan Liebler <stli@linux.ibm.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] malloc: Remove bin scanning from memalign (bug 30723)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 15:05:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8c8dba8c-0e22-cd93-48e8-27482b3bc157@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fs3850as.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>

On 20.09.23 17:31, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Stefan Liebler:
> 
>>> Does your kernel have a fix for the early sbrk failure?  I suspect what
>>> happens is that we fall over to mmap from sbrk, making the heap
>>> non-contiguous.
>>>
>>> The sbrk failure should be visible under strace.
>>>
>> Yes, strace shows mmap with randomize_va_space=0:
>> brk(NULL)                               = 0x3fff7fb2000
>> brk(0x3fff7fd3000)                      = 0x3fff7fd3000
>> brk(0x3fff7ff7000)                      = 0x3fff7fd3000
>> mmap(NULL, 1048576, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1,
>> 0) = 0x3fff7b00000
> 
> Ahh, looks like we can get 4 KiB or maybe 8 KiB of heap from the kernel.
> That's why we didn't crash before in early startup.  It looks like a
> another ASLR layout issue, different from the problem that broke static
> PIE.
> 
> Not sure what we can do about this.  Obviously, we'd prefer if the test
> suite ran with a more production-like malloc configuration.
> 
>> write(1, "error: tst-memalign-2.c:158: not"..., 54error:
>> tst-memalign-2.c:158: not true: count > LN / 2
>> ) = 54
>>
>> Note that there is this previous mmap-event before set_tid_address-syscall:
>> mmap(NULL, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0)
>> = 0x3fff7ff7000
> 
> This is the ld.so minimal malloc, it doesn't use sbrk.
> 
> Thanks,
> Florian
> 
Just as summary:

Without randomization (/proc/sys/kernel/randomize_va_space == 0):
3fff7c00000-3fff7e1d000 libc.so
3fff7f00000-3fff7f08000 tst-memalign-2
3fff7f80000-3fff7fb4000 ld.so
3fff7fb4000-3fff7fd5000 [heap]
3fff7ff7000-3fff7ffb000 ld.so-minimal-malloc
3fffffda000-3ffffffb000 [stack]
=> brk tries to extend heap and fails due to "ld.so-minimal-malloc".
Then mmap is used which leads to the test-fail.

If I remember correctly, the kernel-guys mentioned - while static-PIE
issue - that the heap is "always" located after the main-program. The
glibc test-cases are run by executing ld.so directly.

But if randomization (/proc/sys/kernel/randomize_va_space == 2) is
turned on:
2aa019d8000-2aa01a44000 [heap]
3ff80f00000-3ff8111d000 libc.so
3ff81280000-3ff81288000 tst-memalign-2
3ff81301000-3ff81334000 ld.so
3ff81377000-3ff8137b000 ld.so-minimal-malloc
3ffd6ada000-3ffd6afb000 [stack]

As comparison "cat /proc/self/maps" with randomization:
2aa22780000-2aa2278b000 /usr/bin/cat
2aa22f4e000-2aa22f6f000 [heap]
3ff8b000000-3ff8b1db000 libc.so
3ff8b380000-3ff8b3af000 ld.so
3ffdc6da000-3ffdc6fb000 [stack]
and without:
2aa00000000-2aa0000b000 /usr/bin/cat
2aa0000b000-2aa0002c000 [heap]
3fff7c00000-3fff7ddb000 libc.so
3fff7f80000-3fff7faf000 ld.so
3fffffda000-3ffffffb000 [stack]
3ffffffc000-3ffffffe000 [vvar]
3ffffffe000-40000000000 [vdso]

I assume this issue is s390-specific. I will talk to our kernel-guys. I
think the behavior when ld.so is called directly without randomization
should be the same as if activated and the heap should be located
somewhere at 0x2aa00000000

      reply	other threads:[~2023-09-21 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-11 15:48 Florian Weimer
2023-09-19 14:32 ` Stefan Liebler
2023-09-19 17:35   ` Florian Weimer
2023-09-20 14:35     ` Stefan Liebler
2023-09-20 15:31       ` Florian Weimer
2023-09-21 13:05         ` Stefan Liebler [this message]

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