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From: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>, Zack Weinberg <zackw@panix.com>
Cc: nd@arm.com, Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/9] posix: Allow glob to match dangling symlinks [BZ #866]
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:43:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <93a08b16-28a6-2df9-a24e-8f1cc63b7951@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59BA546C.8060904@arm.com>



On 14/09/2017 07:05, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> On 13/09/17 13:22, Adhemerval Zanella wrote:
>> On 13/09/2017 06:14, Paul Eggert wrote:
>>> Adhemerval Zanella wrote:
>>>> Another approach that does not involve adding compat symbols (which adds
>>>> a lot of code complexity inside glibc build and do not solve 'make' builds
>>>> against new glibc) would to make GLOB_ALTDIRFUNCS to follow the old semantic
>>>> of using gl_stat instead of gl_lstat while making glob without GLOB_ALTDIRFUNCS
>>>> works as intended.  And add another flag, GLOB_ALTDIRFUNCS2, which actually
>>>> uses gl_lstat.
>>>
>>> Although that's clever, it is a gratuitous source-code incompatibility with BSD, which is not a good thing. To some extent it's just GLOB_FOLLOW and GLOB_NOFOLLOW in disguise, and disguise is not a good thing in APIs. So I think I still prefer the compat symbol approach.
>>>
>>> We'll get GNU 'Make' fixed, and I wouldn't worry overly much about people building unpatched 'Make' with new glibc. I filed a Make bug report is here:
>>>
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-make/2017-09/msg00014.html
>>
>> Right, I am mainly trying to avoid bring more internal glob implementation
>> complexity to glibc, but since you says the unpatched 'Make' built
>> against newer glibc shouldn't be a problem I think we can this way.
>> I will work on it.
>>
> 
> i think breaking make is a serious issue now for
> anyone trying to do toolchain dev (in native chroots).
> and if this gets into a released version of glibc
> then it will be an issue for distros.
> 
> i think old make binaries should keep working with
> glibc 2.27 whatever it takes and it's best to fix
> this breakage sooner than later (it's a pain to
> carry patched make around).

Yes, that was the consensus and the idea is to provide a compat symbol
that does not call gl_lstat.

As a side note, make tests itself does not trigger it this issue
(running make tests with a newer glibc shows no regression), so it
would be good also if make adds a newer tests to stress it.

> 
> (this is not different than the stupid malloc hook
> usage was in emacs and that was dragged out over
> several years until glibc was fixed to wait for
> a stable emacs release that is fixed, the same
> should be done for make)
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-14 13:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-05 20:25 [PATCH 0/9] posix: glob fixes and refactor Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 9/9] posix: Fix glob with GLOB_NOCHECK returning modified patterns (BZ#10246) Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-07 22:14   ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-08  9:16     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 2/9] posix: accept inode 0 is a valid inode number (BZ #19971) Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 7/9] posix: Consolidate glob implementation Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-12  7:35   ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 14:08     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-12 14:17       ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 14:29     ` Joseph Myers
2017-09-12 14:39       ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 14:50         ` Joseph Myers
2017-09-12 12:56   ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 14:22     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-12 14:34       ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-13 12:26         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 1/9] posix: Sync glob with gnulib [BZ #1062] Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-06  2:01   ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-06 12:52     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-12 14:20   ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 17:06     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 4/9] Sync scratch_buffer with gnulib Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-18  6:09   ` Florian Weimer
2017-09-18 11:43     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-18 11:57       ` Florian Weimer
2017-09-18 12:25         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 6/9] posix: fix glob bugs with long login names Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 3/9] posix: Allow glob to match dangling symlinks [BZ #866] Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-06  1:27   ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-06 12:57     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-09  9:50   ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-09 11:56     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-09 17:02       ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-09 17:11         ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-09 17:26           ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-09 17:33             ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-10  8:19         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-10 17:13           ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-11 14:34           ` Joseph Myers
2017-09-11 14:38             ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-11 16:53               ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-11 17:25                 ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-11 17:38                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-11 17:56                     ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-11 18:03                       ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-11 20:09                         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-13  9:14                           ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-13 12:22                             ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-14 10:05                               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2017-09-14 13:43                                 ` Adhemerval Zanella [this message]
2017-09-15 20:18                             ` Florian Weimer
2017-09-15 20:27                               ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-17  7:16                               ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-17  7:48                                 ` Florian Weimer
2017-09-17 14:18                                   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 8/9] posix: Use enum for __glob_pattern_type result Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-06  1:30   ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-06  4:18   ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-06 13:04     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-06 16:18       ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-06 16:54         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 5/9] posix: Fix getpwnam_r usage (BZ #1062) Adhemerval Zanella

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