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From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>, Zack Weinberg <zackw@panix.com>
Cc: "Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)" <albert.aribaud@3adev.fr>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/52] Make GLIBC Y2038-proof
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2017 16:54:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <95f9294b-49d8-267b-d810-ffe7f33a2102@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1709081626530.16313@digraph.polyomino.org.uk>

On 09/08/2017 09:43 AM, Joseph Myers wrote:
> (I think this use of long is*less*  of an issue than e.g. printf
> returning int, since you can legitimately print more characters than fit
> in int.)

printf is obviously more-important since it's used all over the place 
and is more likely to run into the arbitrary int limit. That being said, 
in practice GNU Coreutils, GNU Emacs, and other application code that I 
help maintain long ago stopped assuming the POSIX requirement that 
tv_nsec must be of type 'long', precisely because we want to be portable 
to x32. So from my point of view this ship already sailed and the POSIX 
requirement is no longer helpful; on the contrary, it is misleading 
programmers who are trying to write portable software.

If the issue is raised again at the Austin Group level, please let us 
know. I at least would like to put in my two cents.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-08 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-07 22:42 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:42 ` [RFC PATCH 01/52] Y2038: add type __time64_t Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:42   ` [RFC PATCH 02/52] Y2038: add function __difftime64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:42     ` [RFC PATCH 03/52] Y2038: add functions using struct tm Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:42       ` [RFC PATCH 04/52] Y2038: add function __mktime64 (and timelocal) Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:42         ` [RFC PATCH 05/52] Y2038: add function __timegm64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:42           ` [RFC PATCH 06/52] Y2038: add struct __timespec64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:42             ` [RFC PATCH 07/52] Y2038: add function __clock_gettime64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:43               ` [RFC PATCH 08/52] Y2038: add function __clock_settime64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:43                 ` [RFC PATCH 09/52] Y2038: add function __clock_getres64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:43                   ` [RFC PATCH 10/52] Y2038: add function __clock_nanosleep64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:43                     ` [RFC PATCH 11/52] Y2038: add function __timespec_get64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:43                       ` [RFC PATCH 12/52] Y2038: add function __futimens64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:43                         ` [RFC PATCH 13/52] Y2038: add function __utimensat64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:43                           ` [RFC PATCH 14/52] Y2038: add function __sigtimedwait64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:43                             ` [RFC PATCH 15/52] Y2038: add struct __timeval64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:43                               ` [RFC PATCH 16/52] Y2038: add function __futimes64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:43                                 ` [RFC PATCH 17/52] Y2038: add function __lutimes64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:43                                   ` [RFC PATCH 18/52] Y2038: add struct __itimerspec64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:43                                     ` [RFC PATCH 19/52] Y2038: add function __timer_gettime64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:43                                       ` [RFC PATCH 20/52] Y2038: add function __timer_settime64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:43                                         ` [RFC PATCH 21/52] Y2038: add function __timerfd_gettime64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:44                                           ` [RFC PATCH 22/52] Y2038: add function __timerfd_settime64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:44                                             ` [RFC PATCH 23/52] Y2038: add struct __stat64_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:44                                               ` [RFC PATCH 24/52] Y2038: add function __fstat64_t64 (and __fxstat64_t64) Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:44                                                 ` [RFC PATCH 25/52] Y2038: add function __stat64_t64 (and __xstat64_t64) Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:44                                                   ` [RFC PATCH 26/52] Y2038: add function __lstat64_t64 (and __lxstat64_t64) Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:44                                                     ` [RFC PATCH 27/52] Y2038: add function __fstatat64_t64 (and __fxstatat_t64) Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:44                                                       ` [RFC PATCH 28/52] Y2038: add function __time_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:44                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 29/52] Y2038: add function __stime_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:44                                                           ` [RFC PATCH 30/52] Y2038: add function __utimes_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:44                                                             ` [RFC PATCH 31/52] Y2038: add function __gettimeofday_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:44                                                               ` [RFC PATCH 32/52] Y2038: add function __settimeofday_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:44                                                                 ` [RFC PATCH 33/52] Y2038: add function __mq_timedsend_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:44                                                                   ` [RFC PATCH 34/52] Y2038: add function __mq_timedreceive_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:44                                                                     ` [RFC PATCH 35/52] Y2038: add function __msgctl_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:45                                                                       ` [RFC PATCH 36/52] Y2038: add function __sched_rr_get_interval_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:45                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 37/52] Y2038: add function __nanosleep64_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:45                                                                           ` [RFC PATCH 38/52] Y2038: add function __adjtime_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:45                                                                             ` [RFC PATCH 39/52] Y2038: add function __utime_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:45                                                                               ` [RFC PATCH 40/52] Y2038: add struct __itimerval_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:45                                                                                 ` [RFC PATCH 41/52] Y2038: add function __getitimer_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:45                                                                                   ` [RFC PATCH 42/52] Y2038: add function __setitimer_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:45                                                                                     ` [RFC PATCH 43/52] Y2038: add functions using futexes Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:45                                                                                       ` [RFC PATCH 44/52] Y2038: add function __getrusage_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:45                                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 45/52] Y2038: add struct __ntp_timeval_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:45                                                                                           ` [RFC PATCH 46/52] Y2038: add function __ntp_gettime_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:45                                                                                             ` [RFC PATCH 47/52] Y2038: add function __ntp_gettimex_t64 Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:45                                                                                               ` [RFC PATCH 48/52] Y2038: add function __adjtimex_t64 (and __ntp_adjtime_t64) Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-07 22:46                                                                                                 ` [RFC PATCH 49/52] Y2038: add function pselect Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-08 17:49                                                                                                   ` [RFC PATCH 50/52] Y2038: add function select Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-08 17:49                                                                                                     ` [RFC PATCH 51/52] Y2038: add RPC functions Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-08 17:49                                                                                                       ` [RFC PATCH 52/52] Y2038: add _TIME_BITS==64 support Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2017-09-08 19:47                                                                                                         ` Joseph Myers
2017-09-08 19:47                                                                                                       ` [RFC PATCH 51/52] Y2038: add RPC functions Joseph Myers
2017-09-08 19:59                                                                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-09 14:37                                                                                                         ` Albert ARIBAUD
2017-09-11  6:33                                                                                                           ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-11  7:06                                                                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-11 14:07                                                                                                           ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-11 15:59                                                                                                             ` Albert ARIBAUD
2017-09-07 23:21 ` [RFC PATCH 00/52] Make GLIBC Y2038-proof Joseph Myers
2017-09-08 16:19   ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-08 16:43     ` Joseph Myers
2017-09-08 16:54       ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2017-09-08 17:01       ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-08 17:24         ` Joseph Myers
2017-09-08 18:32           ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-08 17:42     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2017-09-08 17:59       ` Joseph Myers
2017-09-08 18:16         ` Albert ARIBAUD
2017-09-08 18:36           ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-08 17:08   ` Albert ARIBAUD
2017-09-08 17:26     ` Joseph Myers
2017-09-08 19:19       ` Albert ARIBAUD
2017-09-08  4:23 ` Albert ARIBAUD

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