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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	 linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: reject unknown open flags
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 18:45:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFyhH0924xwS4q8sJ=F-HZyoSQZJaQ6cWgTCAj4PjrZt8g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170330182620.GA25251@lst.de>

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
>
> That would be nice, but still won't work as we blindly copy f_flags
> into F_GETFL, not even masking our internal FMODE_ bits.

Ok, *that* is just silly of us, and we could try to just fix, and even backport.

There's no possible valid use I could see where that should break
(famous last words - user code does some damn odd things at times).

Of course, that won't fix old kernels that are out there, but then
neither would your original patch...

Side note: I think you *can* detect the O_ATOMIC support by using
F_SETFL, because F_SETFL only allows you to change flags that we
recognize. So somebody who really wants to *guarantee* that O_ATOMIC
is there and honored even with old kernels could presumable do
something like

   fd = open(..); // *no* O_ATOMIC
   fcnt(fd, F_SETFL, O_ATOMIC);
   if (fcnt(fd, F_GETFL, NULL) & O_ATOMIC)
        // Yay! We actually got it
   else
        // I guess we need to fall back on old behavior

although I agree that that is ridiculously inconvenient and not a
great thing, and it's worth trying to aim for some better model.

                    Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-30 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-30 16:33 Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-30 16:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs: " Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-30 17:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-30 16:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] fs: add a VALID_OPEN_FLAGS Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-30 17:08 ` RFC: reject unknown open flags Linus Torvalds
2017-03-30 17:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-30 18:19     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-30 18:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-30 18:45         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2017-03-30 20:06           ` Boaz Harrosh
2017-03-30 19:02       ` Paul Eggert
2017-03-30 19:14         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-30 19:22   ` Florian Weimer

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