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From: Jonathan Wakely <jwakely@redhat.com>
To: Jason Merrill <jason@redhat.com>
Cc: Matthias Kretz <m.kretz@gsi.de>,
	"Richard Earnshaw (lists)" <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com>,
	 "libstdc++" <libstdc++@gcc.gnu.org>,
	gcc-patches List <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] c++: implement C++17 hardware interference size
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 17:54:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACb0b4kp-X+t7+Yuf9VwaX6cBL-jaRoVBE-EsZCyv+S0LQAKCw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADzB+2k2mX0_9xuBMqkBbpptUFYKQcqUCsmtKe5cDi=ahOjWCw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 at 16:33, Jason Merrill wrote:
> Adjusting them based on tuning would certainly simplify a significant use
> case, perhaps the only reasonable use.  Cases more concerned with ABI
> stability probably shouldn't use them at all. And that would mean not
> needing to worry about the impossible task of finding the right values for
> an entire architecture.

But it would be quite a significant change in behaviour if -mtune
started affecting ABI, wouldn't it?

> I'm thinking about warning by default for any use of the variables without
> explicitly specifying their values on the command line. Users could disable
> the warning if they're happy using whatever the defaults happen to be.

I like that suggestion.

Maybe the warning could suggest optimal values based on the current
-mtune flag. That way -mtune wouldn't need to alter ABI, but by
combining -mtune with explicit values for the variables you get the
best performance. And -mtune without overriding the default values
preserves ABI.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-16 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20210716023656.670004-1-jason@redhat.com>
2021-07-16  2:41 ` Jason Merrill
2021-07-16  2:48   ` Noah Goldstein
2021-07-16 11:17     ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-07-16 13:27       ` Richard Earnshaw
2021-07-16 13:26   ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-07-16 15:12   ` Matthias Kretz
2021-07-16 15:30     ` Jason Merrill
2021-07-16 16:54       ` Jonathan Wakely [this message]
2021-07-16 18:43         ` Jason Merrill
2021-07-16 19:26         ` Matthias Kretz
2021-07-16 19:58           ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-07-17  8:14             ` Matthias Kretz
2021-07-17 13:32               ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-07-17 13:54                 ` Matthias Kretz
2021-07-17 21:37                   ` Jason Merrill
2021-07-19  9:41                     ` Richard Earnshaw
2021-07-20 16:43                       ` Jason Merrill
2021-07-20 18:05                 ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-07-16 17:20     ` Noah Goldstein
2021-07-16 19:37       ` Matthias Kretz
2021-07-16 21:23         ` Noah Goldstein

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