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From: Noah Goldstein <goldstein.w.n@gmail.com>
To: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org, "H . J . Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	 Sajan Karumanchi <sajan.karumanchi@gmail.com>,
	bmerry@sarao.ac.za, pmallapp@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] x86: Fix Zen3/Zen4 ERMS selection (BZ 30994)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 17:39:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFUsyf+CMX0CaP=7NTCGzNw7dg_+DRhSh6ygpch-yDEf5ur5hg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d2ee31f-a436-4540-a2cf-6d1570270a7e@linaro.org>

On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 12:10 PM Adhemerval Zanella Netto
<adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 06/02/24 15:36, Noah Goldstein wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 5:43 PM Adhemerval Zanella
> > <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> The REP MOVSB usage on memcpy/memmove does not show much performance
> >> improvement on Zen3/Zen4 cores compared to the vectorized loops.  Also,
> >> as from BZ 30994, if the source is aligned and the destination is not
> >> the performance can be 20x slower.
> >>
> >> The performance difference is noticeable with small buffer sizes, closer
> >> to the lower bounds limits when memcpy/memmove starts to use ERMS.  The
> >> performance of REP MOVSB is similar to vectorized instruction on the
> >> size limit (the L2 cache).  Also, there is no drawback to multiple cores
> >> sharing the cache.
> >>
> >> A new tunable, glibc.cpu.x86_rep_movsb_stop_threshold, allows to set up
> >> the higher bound size to use 'rep movsb'.
> >>
> >> Checked on x86_64-linux-gnu on Zen3.
> >> ---
> >>  manual/tunables.texi         |  9 +++++++
> >>  sysdeps/x86/dl-cacheinfo.h   | 50 +++++++++++++++++++++---------------
> >>  sysdeps/x86/dl-tunables.list | 10 ++++++++
> >>  3 files changed, 48 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/manual/tunables.texi b/manual/tunables.texi
> >> index be97190d67..ee5d90b91b 100644
> >> --- a/manual/tunables.texi
> >> +++ b/manual/tunables.texi
> >> @@ -569,6 +569,15 @@ greater than zero, and currently defaults to 2048 bytes.
> >>  This tunable is specific to i386 and x86-64.
> >>  @end deftp
> >>
> >> +@deftp Tunable glibc.cpu.x86_rep_movsb_stop_threshold
> >> +The @code{glibc.cpu.x86_rep_movsb_threshold} tunable allows the user to
> >> +set the threshold in bytes to stop using "rep movsb".  The value must be
> >> +greater than zero, and currently, the default depends on the CPU and the
> >> +cache size.
> >> +
> >> +This tunable is specific to i386 and x86-64.
> >> +@end deftp
> >> +
> >>  @deftp Tunable glibc.cpu.x86_rep_stosb_threshold
> >>  The @code{glibc.cpu.x86_rep_stosb_threshold} tunable allows the user to
> >>  set threshold in bytes to start using "rep stosb".  The value must be
> >> diff --git a/sysdeps/x86/dl-cacheinfo.h b/sysdeps/x86/dl-cacheinfo.h
> >> index d5101615e3..74b804c5e6 100644
> >> --- a/sysdeps/x86/dl-cacheinfo.h
> >> +++ b/sysdeps/x86/dl-cacheinfo.h
> >> @@ -791,7 +791,6 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
> >>    long int data = -1;
> >>    long int shared = -1;
> >>    long int shared_per_thread = -1;
> >> -  long int core = -1;
> >>    unsigned int threads = 0;
> >>    unsigned long int level1_icache_size = -1;
> >>    unsigned long int level1_icache_linesize = -1;
> >> @@ -809,7 +808,6 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
> >>    if (cpu_features->basic.kind == arch_kind_intel)
> >>      {
> >>        data = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_SIZE, cpu_features);
> >> -      core = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_SIZE, cpu_features);
> >>        shared = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL3_CACHE_SIZE, cpu_features);
> >>        shared_per_thread = shared;
> >>
> >> @@ -822,7 +820,8 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
> >>         = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_ASSOC, cpu_features);
> >>        level1_dcache_linesize
> >>         = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_LINESIZE, cpu_features);
> >> -      level2_cache_size = core;
> >> +      level2_cache_size
> >> +       = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_SIZE, cpu_features);
> >>        level2_cache_assoc
> >>         = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_ASSOC, cpu_features);
> >>        level2_cache_linesize
> >> @@ -835,12 +834,12 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
> >>        level4_cache_size
> >>         = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL4_CACHE_SIZE, cpu_features);
> >>
> >> -      get_common_cache_info (&shared, &shared_per_thread, &threads, core);
> >> +      get_common_cache_info (&shared, &shared_per_thread, &threads,
> >> +                            level2_cache_size);
> >>      }
> >>    else if (cpu_features->basic.kind == arch_kind_zhaoxin)
> >>      {
> >>        data = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_SIZE);
> >> -      core = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_SIZE);
> >>        shared = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL3_CACHE_SIZE);
> >>        shared_per_thread = shared;
> >>
> >> @@ -849,19 +848,19 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
> >>        level1_dcache_size = data;
> >>        level1_dcache_assoc = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_ASSOC);
> >>        level1_dcache_linesize = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_LINESIZE);
> >> -      level2_cache_size = core;
> >> +      level2_cache_size = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_SIZE);
> >>        level2_cache_assoc = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_ASSOC);
> >>        level2_cache_linesize = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_LINESIZE);
> >>        level3_cache_size = shared;
> >>        level3_cache_assoc = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL3_CACHE_ASSOC);
> >>        level3_cache_linesize = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL3_CACHE_LINESIZE);
> >>
> >> -      get_common_cache_info (&shared, &shared_per_thread, &threads, core);
> >> +      get_common_cache_info (&shared, &shared_per_thread, &threads,
> >> +                            level2_cache_size);
> >>      }
> >>    else if (cpu_features->basic.kind == arch_kind_amd)
> >>      {
> >>        data = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_SIZE);
> >> -      core = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_SIZE);
> >>        shared = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL3_CACHE_SIZE);
> >>
> >>        level1_icache_size = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL1_ICACHE_SIZE);
> >> @@ -869,7 +868,7 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
> >>        level1_dcache_size = data;
> >>        level1_dcache_assoc = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_ASSOC);
> >>        level1_dcache_linesize = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_LINESIZE);
> >> -      level2_cache_size = core;
> >> +      level2_cache_size = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_SIZE);;
> >>        level2_cache_assoc = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_ASSOC);
> >>        level2_cache_linesize = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_LINESIZE);
> >>        level3_cache_size = shared;
> >> @@ -880,12 +879,12 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
> >>        if (shared <= 0)
> >>          {
> >>             /* No shared L3 cache.  All we have is the L2 cache.  */
> >> -           shared = core;
> >> +           shared = level2_cache_size;
> >>          }
> >>        else if (cpu_features->basic.family < 0x17)
> >>          {
> >>             /* Account for exclusive L2 and L3 caches.  */
> >> -           shared += core;
> >> +           shared += level2_cache_size;
> >>          }
> >>
> >>        shared_per_thread = shared;
> >> @@ -1028,16 +1027,25 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
> >>                            SIZE_MAX);
> >>
> >>    unsigned long int rep_movsb_stop_threshold;
> >> -  /* ERMS feature is implemented from AMD Zen3 architecture and it is
> >> -     performing poorly for data above L2 cache size. Henceforth, adding
> >> -     an upper bound threshold parameter to limit the usage of Enhanced
> >> -     REP MOVSB operations and setting its value to L2 cache size.  */
> >> -  if (cpu_features->basic.kind == arch_kind_amd)
> >> -    rep_movsb_stop_threshold = core;
> >> -  /* Setting the upper bound of ERMS to the computed value of
> >> -     non-temporal threshold for architectures other than AMD.  */
> >> -  else
> >> -    rep_movsb_stop_threshold = non_temporal_threshold;
> >> +  /* If the tunable is set and with a valid value (larger than the minimal
> >> +     threshold to use ERMS) use it instead of default values.  */
> >> +  rep_movsb_stop_threshold = TUNABLE_GET (x86_rep_movsb_stop_threshold,
> >> +                                         long int, NULL);
> >> +  if (!TUNABLE_IS_INITIALIZED (x86_rep_movsb_stop_threshold)
> >> +      || rep_movsb_stop_threshold <= rep_movsb_threshold)
> >> +    {
> >> +      /* For AMD CPUs that support ERMS (Zen3+), REP MOVSB is in a lot of
> >> +        cases slower than the vectorized path (and for some alignments,
> >> +        it is really slow, check BZ #30994).  */
> >> +      if (cpu_features->basic.kind == arch_kind_amd)
> >> +       rep_movsb_stop_threshold = 0;
> > note that if `size >= rep_movsb_threshold && size >= rep_movsb_stop_threshold`
> > we will use NT stores, not temporal stores.
> >
> > Id think you would want this to be setting the
> > `rep_movsb_threshold` -> `non_temporal_threshold`
> > which would essentially disable `rep movsb` but continue to
> > use the other tunables for temporal/non-temporal decisions.
>
> My understanding is it will keep using non temporal stores, for instance
> with a size equal to 25165824 (x86.cpu_features.non_temporal_threshold)
> the code will:
>
> sysdeps/x86_64/multiarch/memmove-vec-unaligned-erms.S
>
> 384 #if defined USE_MULTIARCH && IS_IN (libc)
> 385 L(movsb_more_2x_vec):
> 386         cmp     __x86_rep_movsb_threshold(%rip), %RDX_LP
> 387         ja      L(movsb)
>
>
> And then:
>
> 613         /* If above __x86_rep_movsb_stop_threshold most likely is
> 614            candidate for NT moves as well.  */
> 615         cmp     __x86_rep_movsb_stop_threshold(%rip), %RDX_LP
> 616         jae     L(large_memcpy_2x_check)
>
> And then skipping 'rep movsb' altogether.  And it will check whether
> to use temporal stores:
>
> 683 L(large_memcpy_2x):
> 684         mov     __x86_shared_non_temporal_threshold(%rip), %R11_LP
> 685         cmp     %R11_LP, %RDX_LP
> 686         jb      L(more_8x_vec_check)
>

Ah you're right, forgot about that code!


>
> Maybe one options would to set rep_movsb_stop_threshold to rep_movsb_threshold,
> it slight clear that the range to use ERMS is a 0 size internal.
So never use `rep movsb`?
If that where the case, I would just set `rep_movsb_threshold` to
`non_temporal_threshold`
as the default.
>
>
> >> +      else
> >> +      /* Setting the upper bound of ERMS to the computed value of
> >> +        non-temporal threshold for architectures other than AMD.  */
> >> +       rep_movsb_stop_threshold = non_temporal_threshold;
> >> +    }
> >> +  TUNABLE_SET_WITH_BOUNDS (x86_rep_stosb_threshold, rep_stosb_threshold, 1,
> >> +                          SIZE_MAX);
> >>
> >>    cpu_features->data_cache_size = data;
> >>    cpu_features->shared_cache_size = shared;
> >> diff --git a/sysdeps/x86/dl-tunables.list b/sysdeps/x86/dl-tunables.list
> >> index 7d82da0dec..80cf5563ab 100644
> >> --- a/sysdeps/x86/dl-tunables.list
> >> +++ b/sysdeps/x86/dl-tunables.list
> >> @@ -49,6 +49,16 @@ glibc {
> >>        # if the tunable value is set by user or not [BZ #27069].
> >>        minval: 1
> >>      }
> >> +    x86_rep_movsb_stop_threshold {
> >> +      # For AMD CPUs that support ERMS (Zen3+), REP MOVSB is not faster
> >> +      # than the vectorized path (and for some destination alignment it
> >> +      # is really slow, check BZ #30994).  On Intel CPUs, the size limit
> >> +      # to use ERMS is [1/8, 1/2] of the size of the chip's cache, check
> >> +      # the dl-cacheinfo.h).
> >> +      # This tunable allows the caller to set the limit where to use REP
> >> +      # MOVB on memcpy/memmove.
> >> +      type: SIZE_T
> >> +    }
> >>      x86_rep_stosb_threshold {
> >>        type: SIZE_T
> >>        # Since there is overhead to set up REP STOSB operation, REP STOSB
> >> --
> >> 2.34.1
> >>

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-07 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-06 17:43 [PATCH v2 0/3] x86: Improve ERMS usage on Zen3+ Adhemerval Zanella
2024-02-06 17:43 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] x86: Fix Zen3/Zen4 ERMS selection (BZ 30994) Adhemerval Zanella
2024-02-06 18:36   ` Noah Goldstein
2024-02-07 12:10     ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-07 17:39       ` Noah Goldstein [this message]
2024-02-07 18:06         ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-07 18:10           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-07 22:07             ` Noah Goldstein
2024-02-09 10:59               ` Karumanchi, Sajan
2024-02-06 17:43 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] x86: Do not prefer ERMS for memset on Zen3+ Adhemerval Zanella
2024-02-06 19:01   ` Noah Goldstein
2024-02-07 12:14     ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-06 17:43 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] x86: Expand the comment on when REP STOSB is used on memset Adhemerval Zanella

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