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From: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	GCC Development <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	 GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Tom Stellard <tstellar@redhat.com>,
	llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org,  "Mallappa,
	Premachandra" <Premachandra.Mallappa@amd.com>,
	x86-64-abi <x86-64-abi@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New x86-64 micro-architecture levels
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 10:57:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFiYyc2t4_A7MrxAPBwgrSc405GniV6Xgwpisjn4ibh=qLudZA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pn8zuaky.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com>

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:40 AM Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> * Richard Biener:
>
> >> Looks good.  I like it.
> >
> > Likewise.  Btw, did you check that VIA family chips slot into Level A
> > at least?
>
> Those seem to lack SSE4.2, so they land in the baseline.
>
> > Where do AMD bdverN slot in?
>
> bdver1 to bdver3 (as defined by GCC) should land in Level B (so Level A
> if that is dropped).  bdver4 and znver1 (and later) should land in
> Level C.
>
> >>  My only concerns are
> >>
> >> 1. Names like “x86-100”, “x86-101”, what features do they support?
> >
> > Indeed I didn't get the -100, -101 part.  On the GCC side I'd have
> > suggested -march=generic-{A,B,C,D} implying the respective
> > -mtune.
>
> With literal A, B, C, D, or are they just placeholders?  If not literal
> levels, then what we should use there?
>
> I like the simplicity of numbers.  I used letters in the proposal to
> avoid confusion if we alter the proposal by dropping or levels, shifting
> the meaning of those that come later.  I expect to switch back to
> numbers again for the final version.

They are indeed placeholders though I somehow prefer letters to
numbers.  But this is really bike-shedding territory.  Good documentation
on the tools side will be more imporant as well as consistent spelling
between tools sets, possibly driven by a good choice from within the
psABI document.

Richard.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-13  8:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-10 17:30 Florian Weimer
2020-07-10 19:14 ` Joseph Myers
2020-07-13  7:55   ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-10 21:42 ` H.J. Lu
2020-07-13  6:23   ` Richard Biener
2020-07-13  7:40     ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-13  7:47       ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-13 13:31         ` H.J. Lu
2020-07-13 13:53           ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-07-13  8:57       ` Richard Biener [this message]
2020-07-13  6:49   ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-13 13:30     ` H.J. Lu
2020-07-11  7:40 ` Allan Sandfeld Jensen
2020-07-13  6:58   ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-15 14:38 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-07-15 14:45   ` H.J. Lu
2020-07-15 14:56   ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-21 16:05 ` Mallappa, Premachandra
2020-07-21 18:04   ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-22  1:31     ` Dongsheng Song
2020-07-22  8:44       ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-22  9:26         ` Richard Biener
2020-07-22 10:16           ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-22 13:50             ` Richard Biener
2020-07-22 14:21               ` H.J. Lu
2020-07-31 13:06           ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-07-22  7:48     ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-22 10:34       ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-22 11:41         ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-31 13:20         ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-07-22 16:45     ` Mallappa, Premachandra
2020-07-23 12:44       ` Michael Matz
2020-07-23 13:21         ` H.J. Lu
2020-07-28 15:54       ` Florian Weimer

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