From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ed1-x531.google.com (mail-ed1-x531.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::531]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA6233849AD0; Fri, 19 Apr 2024 09:36:02 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org AA6233849AD0 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gmail.com ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org AA6233849AD0 Authentication-Results: server2.sourceware.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::531 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1713519369; cv=none; b=mV/y6bbzyQvhls6HThgGbYKUG9wQ6LZtvgxKcbgCvqGsq9XMrar72T+88hAHyZTz27RIAadKNCs2ElsEmY7Ju80FK9cxFjQnfqmoMb4OiZQxLrGeYmxJiELXogul48JCZiBlpnZ0NxL1PiHh+GCXDLTepsZDqihG8K6JuZzBhIs= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1713519369; c=relaxed/simple; bh=L3+E+6ms60hQDNEjb347QJ4f9lZjqlpZc/tBxuB60No=; h=DKIM-Signature:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID:Subject:To; b=gdv1BpKegayMxMqk+kWVUUz9Ws0gEyvowkZvb4gBelShlBbZtCN20fSPNTEsq9iMi9Ee0IlWXZe2xtSc9CTvefwTHgdfiQ/nrG9gXNyeWqOnZNBQDwg0Jdv79opkbLULy7aYU5msXm7um0Phnz9TriE1y84fRiHUBO2GzsksBK0= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org Received: by mail-ed1-x531.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-56e1f3462caso2327207a12.3; Fri, 19 Apr 2024 02:36:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1713519360; x=1714124160; darn=sourceware.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=L3+E+6ms60hQDNEjb347QJ4f9lZjqlpZc/tBxuB60No=; b=gqx5jqct3aYtqVf1s2DFqTwgZFb0HUkXcI5H/XRiOgFsKjBK4ZUFrKWAriqBKthii4 spJ4JSNP+HGF6RcEm+IRsbnFwqpLAPC/9IwEaXkhGNctYAiNHPV+QV5ausjHazMvZYS/ ZFiTxdmalF0mv2KPdk+06K/SM/VJkILEe/B+o/xHIBmIAX8IEa904NkFfrkkadznucLP zcCbGGSJtjb2IEoI/OjDUcOaSK1fJ7djfhTzV0XhCASkztdDwjmSQc4KpK+rMCQGfOBG lyyOXltlZuXuqvrBV7eGCiLC28Y54PhgySMjvENwcevLVxxMPH+dUDYRdW22ENnvqdqj YliQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1713519360; x=1714124160; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=L3+E+6ms60hQDNEjb347QJ4f9lZjqlpZc/tBxuB60No=; b=erIfR00Koi/g6QoW+TyakRfQPJ/eihC6dUcz0cy1KyLnpHIjpjKrR/kshKj49ij6fb SRbR0c7B243ZyfEuDwCW1pkhAAlaGMVtPapBoQir85Q5nRc1eYyfiRizxXW5CJr54RXU Bmvl3VRGl2gjAM6GBlXc6USBCQjPuaxmbchKFGyCMF6QFHB0/nqeFQYeifbsrIDolhA4 qhNSF+Rl7XAiwBW/+Weze8WJYuzehIq3GV7OHJaicWar/8zIIa3qDUQxMcRPzCLwyVbV AK5ph2EE9HgOLoMAglGdt6li6ntW/EfmyRiOs5q9+f153mALsb+pubTOO7lcTNq8QRdE zvAA== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXusYuUzR5hM5MW2DRyc81aojVXz5eHf4BfpeJgZy46UxH0Q51b3XiOgCQrSHw4IhTuuTb72vlj9S+gfg2qlwKKDFxRJKLm02Wz/Z8gl/OI/WWkWJy0B81NRZJinvFPRRXxLS81xTCEwETIXaAP4uXEYn7h32lQnyZuuBTMYbLQ88VzTWP3GG8gfIRXxmAAog0= X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxUPDJXWG8x2ZjR10VCI1CvZ+cLoPtc6czSj7wZMvLuOHZctFIK D4ODpQONve3uQPbTMfZChfvO+EUtGPrrj1s6EezjrwIITpXOY6856rGRtBHLK2njlHdIjjBanlW 2dJAxd9Y5tstcKVLwvVOwmnGrox2x7Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF6N4w40pycjXw+OfTiIAIJdjYfxFV9sfapJ+dYypJOgmguQ/b/R8NxWprDzF/88jPx/E0w9xN2owh9KGTynao= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:b105:b0:a55:75f6:ce0f with SMTP id u5-20020a170906b10500b00a5575f6ce0fmr1093227ejy.13.1713519360325; Fri, 19 Apr 2024 02:36:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240417232725.GC25080@gnu.wildebeest.org> <5bde614c-224f-4ec6-8450-7c0911938cf9@netcologne.de> In-Reply-To: <5bde614c-224f-4ec6-8450-7c0911938cf9@netcologne.de> From: Jonathan Wakely Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 10:35:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Updated Sourceware infrastructure plans To: Thomas Koenig Cc: Mark Wielaard , overseers@sourceware.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org, binutils@sourceware.org, gdb@sourceware.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org, "fortran@gcc.gnu.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 at 07:06, Thomas Koenig via Gcc wrote: > > Am 18.04.24 um 01:27 schrieb Mark Wielaard: > > We also should make sure that all generated files (either in git or in > > the release/snapshot tar balls) can be reliably and reproducibly > > regenerated. This also helps the (pre-commit) CI buildbots. We already > > have the autoregen bots for gcc and binutils-gdb. And Christoph has > > been working on extending the scripts to regenerate more kinds of > > files. > > I regenerate auto* files from time to time for libgfortran. Regenerating > them has always been very fragile (using --enable-maintainer-mode), > and difficult to get right. I've been curious for ages why gfortran requires using maintainer mode for that. Nobody else uses maintainer mode for GCC development, so it causes friction when somebody has to do changes across the whole of gcc including gfortran parts. If it doesn't work with a simple autoreconf then that should be fixed.