From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x12f.google.com (mail-lf1-x12f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12f]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA6793857C49 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 22:48:18 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org DA6793857C49 Received: by mail-lf1-x12f.google.com with SMTP id d2so4283859lfj.1 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 15:48:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hNlytGheCj12VIxRahDImQCt7/Yc8pAVoNN1u/M62+g=; b=c3j7eU7s+DDyugI1ZzSvsJh6R5bwnqLVCxHyk7LCt4DqJXs9RUiGGUCXoDmS1J0UKQ rnl2u2bv2LTJvq2JANMiwLWuWdsJvlfwlH/1VUJ2fGnlr4JJa0nzvI/29xYXLGwa0MxF anoiZKjoqVBbxc52C2BYRgSkw72uN74FsnH+MbtfeV1z/62keP0F3fUwN3gYifq+46g+ dXOR4YrJ03EczmzSt8LoAJJG/s2eeuOhXOQNbh7NfC7c/aLYZzH9+FyjZq1+NYVZGXq+ qJK9+fG2wXI7cwlRy0ZsMUTwX2GijDX6yX3WH2KlBt7huR8GUTLyzRu/tJ/NYN2LpSjn 4vkA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533ubtxUlTJlH/Y4DyJkSdNy6Pop66zp4ywWcD23WXZXC1Fr3itx CeQM9lHMEgfQPNkRbl+rXH0bk+JicERusPPeaBeLZA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJysT+C8Fh9glAW6wSprRVudSh8ah4mxV6D2J3RFCZJslTng2mjRIf6iUqZ53z1ZwGYcjQfFUtZH3K2+x81/FQ4= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:5933:: with SMTP id v19mr12671261lfi.94.1595890096821; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 15:48:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <423fbe8b-6b41-d9e8-c4a2-5865d8eeec4b@gmail.com> <87k0you10y.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <87k0you10y.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> From: enh Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 15:48:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Pseudoterminal terminology (was Re: Rename "master" branch to "main"?) To: Florian Weimer Cc: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" , Zack Weinberg , "Carlos O'Donell" , libc-alpha , "Joseph S. Myers" , Paul Eggert X-Spam-Status: No, score=-19.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIMWL_WL_MED, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: libc-alpha@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libc-alpha mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 22:48:20 -0000 On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 2:00 PM Florian Weimer wrote: > > if it wasn't for my desire to match the man page, i'd be sold on > > pty/tty at this point --- direct, inoffensive, and no new words for > > non-native speakers to learn :-) > > Is the use of tty in this context compatible with non-UNIX98 terminals? > (Not sure if BSD still uses them. Hurd apparently does.) > the golang BSD support uses pty/tty, and openssh is from the openbsd folks, so they don't seem to care. i couldn't find anything about hurd ttys from an internet search, although it does look like even they're using the pty/tty names for the device files? > Thanks, > Florian > >