From: enh <enh@google.com>
To: Zack Weinberg <zack@owlfolio.org>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Maybe we should get rid of ifuncs
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 07:25:57 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJgzZor4t00=tOUDunz0-mQ0SUGL6RJL0+CxrEpUTd6JAMimkA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D0SELA748G3A.29OHZXTU7HD0I@owlfolio.org>
On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 6:56 AM Zack Weinberg <zack@owlfolio.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue Apr 23, 2024 at 2:39 PM EDT, enh wrote:
> > one thing i think is interesting (having been looking at ifuncs while
> > adding riscv64 support to Android) is that afaict bionic [Android's
> > libc] is basically the only current user. every library i'm aware of
> > (and certainly every library that's part of the OS) does _not_ use
> > ifuncs, if only because iOS/macOS has no equivalent (and Windows
> > too?), and if you've got to have the manual function pointer
> > manipulation implementation for them...
>
> I assume you meant "every library that's *not* part of the OS"?
no, for the OS [except the already-mentioned exception of libc] there
are _no_ ifuncs. for apps, well, there were none in a _sampling_ of
popular apps i did, but doing a complete survey of all apps ... well,
there are a _lot_ of apps.
> > that said, for llvm at least there's work on function multi-versioning
> > where the compiler basically writes the ifunc resolver. but (a) that's
> > not quite finished yet (?) and (b) i haven't seen anyone _use_ it yet
> > and (c) is at least by definition of being machine-generated pretty
> > regular.
>
> Do you know where to find the llvm work in progress?
the docs are here:
https://github.com/ARM-software/acle/blob/main/main/acle.md#function-multi-versioning
https://github.com/android/ndk/issues/1909 implies that -- despite the
"beta" in the docs -- enough code might be in llvm and then downstream
in the ndk that arm64 FMV is now usable. (but as i said, i haven't
used it yet, and i don't yet know of anyone who does.)
> zw
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-24 14:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-23 18:14 Zack Weinberg
2024-04-23 18:39 ` enh
2024-04-23 19:46 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2024-04-24 13:56 ` Zack Weinberg
2024-04-24 14:25 ` enh [this message]
2024-04-23 18:52 ` Sam James
2024-04-23 18:54 ` Florian Weimer
2024-04-24 13:53 ` Zack Weinberg
2024-04-23 19:26 ` Andreas Schwab
2024-04-24 13:54 ` Zack Weinberg
2024-04-24 1:41 ` Richard Henderson
2024-04-24 14:43 ` Zack Weinberg
2024-04-24 15:09 ` enh
2024-04-28 0:24 ` Peter Bergner
2024-05-02 2:59 ` Michael Meissner
2024-04-30 8:42 ` Simon Josefsson
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