From: Alistair Francis <alistair23@gmail.com>
To: Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>,
GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>,
macro@wdc.com, Zong Li <zongbox@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 03/23] sysdeps/wait: Use waitid if avaliable
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 22:25:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKmqyKMJPQAOKn11xepzAwXOd4e9dU0Cyz=A0T-uMEgUp5yJjA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <72291182-11E1-49C2-9608-875FD9473719@brauner.io>
On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:30 AM Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io> wrote:
>
> On July 25, 2019 7:14:05 PM GMT+02:00, ebiederm@xmission.com wrote:
> >Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> writes:
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 6:40 AM Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 05:04:53PM -0700, Alistair Francis wrote:
> >>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 1:45 AM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
> >wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Sounds good to me, the debate over what rusage to use should not
> >hold
> >>> > > up the review of the rest of that syscall.
> >>> >
> >>> > I'm unclear what the final decision is here. What is the solution
> >are
> >>> > we going to have wait4() or add P_PROCESS_PGID to waitid()?
> >>> >
> >>> > As well as that what is the solution to current implementations?
> >If we
> >>> > add wait4() then there isn't an issue (and I can drop this patch)
> >but
> >>> > if we add P_PROCESS_PGID then we will need a way to handle kernels
> >>> > with waitid() but no P_PROCESS_PGID. Although my new plan is to
> >only
> >>> > use the waitid syscall if we don't have waitpid or wait4 so it
> >seems
> >>> > like this will only affect RV32 for the time being.
> >>>
> >>> I would really like some indication which solution will be taken,
> >>> since it impacts choices that will need to be made in musl very
> >soon.
> >>> My favorite outcome would be bringing back wait4 for rv32 (and
> >>> no-time32 archs in general) *and* adding P_PROCESS_PGID. In the
> >short
> >>> term, just using wait4 would be the simplest and cleanest for us
> >(same
> >>> as all other archs, no extra case to deal with), but in the long
> >term
> >>> there may be value in having rusage that can represent more than 68
> >>> cpu-years spent by a process (seems plausible with large numbers of
> >>> cores).
> >>
> >> Based on the feedback from Linus and Eric, the most likely outcome
> >> at the moment seems to be an extension of waitid() to allow
> >> P_PGID with id=0 like BSD does, and not bring back wait4() or
> >> add P_PROCESS_PGID.
> >>
> >> So far, I don't think anyone has proposed an actual kernel patch.
> >> I was hoping that Eric would do it, but I could also send it if he's
> >> otherwise busy.
> >
> >So here is what I am looking at. It still needs to be tested
> >and the description needs to be improved so that it properly credits
> >everyone. However I think I have the major stroeks correct.
> >
> >From: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
> >Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:44:46 -0500
> >Subject: [PATCH] waitid: Add support for waiting for the current
> >process group
> >
> >It was recently discovered that the linux version of waitid is not a
> >superset of the other wait functions because it does not include
> >support for waiting for the current process group. This has two
> >downsides. An extra system call is needed to get the current process
> >group, and a signal could come in between the system call that
> >retrieved the process gorup and the call to waitid that changes the
> >current process group.
> >
> >Allow userspace to avoid both of those issues by defining
> >idtype == P_PGID and id == 0 to mean wait for the caller's process
> >group at the time of the call.
> >
> >Arguments can be made for using a different choice of idtype and id
> >for this case but the BSDs already use this P_PGID and 0 to indicate
> >waiting for the current process's process group. So be nice to user
> >space programmers and don't introduce an unnecessary incompatibility.
> >
> >Some people have noted that the posix description is that
> >waitpid will wait for the current process group, and that in
> >the presence of pthreads that process group can change. To get
> >clarity on this issue I looked at XNU, FreeBSD, and Luminos. All of
> >those flavors of unix waited for the current process group at the
> >time of call and as written could not adapt to the process group
> >changing after the call.
> >
> >At one point Linux did adapt to the current process group changing but
> >that stopped in 161550d74c07 ("pid: sys_wait... fixes"). It has been
> >over 11 years since Linux has that behavior, no programs that fail
> >with the change in behavior have been reported, and I could not
> >find any other unix that does this. So I think it is safe to clarify
> >the definition of current process group, to current process group
> >at the time of the wait function.
> >
> >Signed-off-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
> >---
> > kernel/exit.c | 6 ++++--
> > 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> >diff --git a/kernel/exit.c b/kernel/exit.c
> >index a75b6a7f458a..3d86930f035e 100644
> >--- a/kernel/exit.c
> >+++ b/kernel/exit.c
> >@@ -1577,14 +1577,16 @@ static long kernel_waitid(int which, pid_t
> >upid, struct waitid_info *infop,
> > break;
> > case P_PGID:
> > type = PIDTYPE_PGID;
> >- if (upid <= 0)
> >+ if (upid < 0)
> > return -EINVAL;
> >+ if (upid == 0)
> >+ pid = get_pid(task_pgrp(current));
> > break;
> > default:
> > return -EINVAL;
> > }
> >
> >- if (type < PIDTYPE_MAX)
> >+ if ((type < PIDTYPE_MAX) && !pid)
> > pid = find_get_pid(upid);
> >
> > wo.wo_type = type;
>
> Eric, mind if I send this out alongside the P_PIDFD patchset and put in a test for it?
Was this ever sent?
Alistair
>
> Christian
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2019-07-20 14:24 ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-07-22 21:17 ` Alistair Francis
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2019-07-17 5:39 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 8:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 8:44 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 9:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 15:16 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-18 7:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-18 8:19 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-18 9:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-18 18:10 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-19 21:06 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 7:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-07-17 12:37 ` Lukasz Majewski
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2019-07-17 7:09 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-20 3:21 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-25 20:54 ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-17 12:43 ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-17 12:48 ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-19 22:29 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:11 ` [RFC v3 03/23] sysdeps/wait: Use waitid " Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 5:31 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-19 17:52 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-22 15:58 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-22 21:06 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-21 4:03 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-21 4:20 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-21 11:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-21 23:00 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-21 7:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-21 12:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-21 12:28 ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-21 14:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-21 15:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-21 17:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-21 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-07-21 21:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-21 23:24 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-23 0:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-23 8:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-23 8:29 ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-23 8:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-25 0:08 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-25 4:40 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-25 13:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-25 16:06 ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-25 17:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-25 17:30 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-13 22:25 ` Alistair Francis [this message]
2019-08-13 23:12 ` Rich Felker
2019-08-14 5:07 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 11:40 ` [PATCH v1 0/1] waitid: process group enhancement christian.brauner
2019-08-14 11:40 ` [PATCH v1 1/1] waitid: Add support for waiting for the current process group christian.brauner
2019-08-14 12:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-14 12:46 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 12:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-14 12:53 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] waitid: process group enhancement Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] waitid: Add support for waiting for the current process group Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 14:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-14 14:35 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 15:27 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-14 15:30 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 15:46 ` [PATCH v3 0/1] waitid: process group enhancement Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 15:46 ` [PATCH v3 1/1] waitid: Add support for waiting for the current process group Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 16:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-14 16:15 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 16:34 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 16:55 ` Rich Felker
2019-08-14 17:02 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 17:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-14 18:00 ` Rich Felker
2019-08-14 20:50 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 15:58 ` [PATCH v3 0/1] waitid: process group enhancement Rich Felker
2019-08-14 16:13 ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-26 23:39 ` [RFC v3 03/23] sysdeps/wait: Use waitid if avaliable Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:11 ` [RFC v3 08/23] RISC-V: define __NR_futex as __NR_futex_time64 for 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 20/23] RISC-V: Build Infastructure for the 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 07/23] RISC-V: Use 64-bit time_t and off_t for RV32 and RV64 Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 8:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 22:43 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-18 7:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-18 17:36 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-19 6:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-19 17:06 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 17/23] RISC-V: Hard float support for the 32 bit Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 09/23] RISC-V: define __NR_* as __NR_*_time64/64 for 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 19/23] RISC-V: Add ABI lists Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 23/23] RISC-V: Use 64-bit vdso syscalls Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 5:33 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 8:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 22:27 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 23:46 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-18 0:05 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 21/23] RISC-V: Fix llrint and llround missing exceptions on RV32 Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 12:22 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 22:35 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 05/23] sysdeps/timespec_get: Use clock_gettime64 if avaliable Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 5:08 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 7:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 8:12 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 8:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 8:41 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 8:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-25 20:14 ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-17 12:23 ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 10/23] RISC-V: define __NR_clock_getres as __NR_*_time64 for 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 12/23] RISC-V: define __vdso_clock_gettime as __vdso_clock_gettime64 " Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 8:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-19 17:19 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 14/23] RISC-V: Support dynamic loader for the 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 11/23] RISC-V: define __vdso_clock_getres as __vdso_clock_getres_time64 for 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 15/23] RISC-V: Add path of library directories for the 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 12:20 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 13/23] RISC-V: Use 64-bit timespec in clock_gettime vdso calls Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 8:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 18/23] RISC-V: Regenerate ULPs of RISC-V Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 06/23] Documentation for the RISC-V 32-bit port Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 16/23] RISC-V: The ABI implementation for the 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:12 ` [RFC v3 22/23] Add RISC-V 32-bit target to build-many-glibcs.py Alistair Francis
2019-07-19 17:18 ` [RFC v3 00/23] RISC-V glibc port for the 32-bit Alistair Francis
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