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From: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Thor Lancelot Simon <tls@netbsd.org>
Cc: Larry Dwyer <larryd.kbd@gmail.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	 linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	Geoff Clare <gwc@opengroup.org>,
	 austin-group-l@opengroup.org,
	Andrew Josey <ajosey@opengroup.org>,
	 libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Elliot Hughes <enh@google.com>,
	 Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: Pseudoterminal terminology in POSIX
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:20:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALxWeYo=h6D3GDrGVLER7amw8S1XoVq2KuDT9u_D=zV3oDreDg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200811115121.GA29807@panix.com>

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 1:51 PM Thor Lancelot Simon via austin-group-l
at The Open Group <austin-group-l@opengroup.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:31:58AM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > On 8/10/20 3:58 PM, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:
> > > On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 04:18:10PM -0700, Larry Dwyer via austin-group-l at The Open Group wrote:
> > >> How about the "control" side and the "terminal" side (of the paired device
> > >> files)?
> > >
> > > How about the "pty side" and the "tty side"?  It seems hard to be more
> > > neutral than that and we can be sure there is no ambiguity.
> >
> > This is an option that came up in the glibc/Linux man-pages discussion.
> > My objection is that I want proper nouns that one can use in a prose
> > description of pseudoterminals.
>
> All names are proper nouns.
>
> They might not be the particular proper nouns that we're used to seeing,
> but they are still proper nouns!

Let me clarify then: my preference is to have natural language nouns,
words that a speaker who was unfamiliar with the domain would know (or
could reasonably guess) how to pronounce when reading them.

Thanks,

Michael

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-11 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-05 11:21 Michael Kerrisk
2020-08-05 13:51 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
     [not found]   ` <20200805142049.GA17848@localhost>
2020-08-05 20:34     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]     ` <CAP1RCkjrqKGJmh6f637D=yGuhev7ae5QJkMjv5a8iHo4X33NFw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <1d8c5e6e96fbdd47ce143a566b57db2c803d4898.camel@gnu.org>
2020-08-05 20:34         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]         ` <21048.1596645536@jinx.noi.kre.to>
     [not found]           ` <CAH7i3LrNvBo3indixGyJgS2_4F9r3cd3kOiDgPK8m-ZXj1a0zg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <874bfe40-5f05-151d-42b3-482baacbf0b2@gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <CAH7i3LpXZxwaLQTY=XK8zM4jWYHSiy1feA6ZLE-mT-ZiJNak5A@mail.gmail.com>
2020-08-11  8:31                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-08-08 23:18 ` Larry Dwyer
2020-08-10 13:20   ` Joerg Schilling
2020-08-10 18:10     ` Zack Weinberg
2020-08-10 18:17       ` Samuel Thibault
2020-08-10 18:21         ` Samuel Thibault
2020-08-11  8:32       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-08-10 13:58   ` Thor Lancelot Simon
2020-08-11  8:31     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-08-11 11:51       ` Thor Lancelot Simon
2020-08-11 14:20         ` Michael Kerrisk [this message]
2020-08-12 14:37       ` Thor Lancelot Simon
2020-08-11  8:32   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-08-11 17:29     ` Joshua M. Clulow
2020-08-12 13:19       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-08-18 16:10         ` Dave Martin
2020-08-18 16:44           ` enh
2020-08-11 11:17   ` Dirk Fieldhouse

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