From: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
To: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@sourceware.org>
Cc: "Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ld.so: Handle read-only dynamic section gracefully [BZ #28340]
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 15:11:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMe9rOqJXj07UT4LMaL9oxS_RBGJd92wFThxtbQR6OdGRQaqTw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3bc3dc4b-d39f-c810-d908-5875a098f1f9@sourceware.org>
On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 10:59 AM Siddhesh Poyarekar
<siddhesh@sourceware.org> wrote:
>
> On 9/16/21 11:08 PM, H.J. Lu wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 9:45 AM Siddhesh Poyarekar
> > <siddhesh@sourceware.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 9/16/21 8:48 PM, H.J. Lu wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 7:11 AM Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 9/16/21 00:48, Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha wrote:
> >>>>> * H. J. Lu:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> There is nothing wrong with read-only dynamic segment.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A relocated DYNAMIC array is part of the ABI for !DL_RO_DYN_SECTION.
> >>>>> ELF requires that DT_STRTAB is present. DT_STRTAB needs relocation.
> >>>>> This means that for !DL_RO_DYN_SECTION, the dynamic segment cannot be in
> >>>>> a read-ony LOAD segment for a valid ELF file.
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree strongly with this position.
> >>>>
> >>>> Even with PT_GNU_RELRO, we must only go in one direction from RW -> RO (to avoid
> >>>> other security issues e.g. hardening not loosening the restrictions).
> >>>>
> >>>> In theory the vDSO is invalid.
> >>>>
> >>>> In practice it is a DL_RO_DYN_SECTION DSO but selected dynamically at runtime
> >>>> rather than statically at compile time for the target.
> >>
> >> Actually it isn't. The dynamic section in the vdso is already relocated
> >> by the kernel when it's mapped in. DL_RO_DYN_SECTION DSOs are not
> >> relocated because of which any references to pointers written in the
> >> .dynamic section need to be relocated.
> >
> > No. Relocation of vDSO dynamic section is done by elf_get_dynamic_info.
> > Here is a patch to remove the hack for vDSO.
> >
>
> Ahh, I misunderstood the comment in setup_vdso, sorry. I verified by
> running under the debugger that the kernel doesn't adjust .dynamic
> entries before mapping the vdso.
>
> This updated patch is definitely better IMO but it still doesn't resolve
> the two outstanding questions posed so far. I'm on the fence about the
> first one (it's imprecise but the cost of imprecision doesn't seem high
> enough to warrant the extra check) but slanted slightly towards
> allocating memory and writing out relocated addresses in the interest of
> keeping the user experience with dl_iterate_phdr and friends consistent.
>
> 1. Should the readonly decision be based solely on DYNAMIC flags or also
> consider flags on the encompassing LOAD segment?
It should purely depend on PT_DYNAMIC segment.
> 2. Do we want to leave .dynamic unrelocated for read-only DYNAMIC or
> should we instead allocate an array to write relocated addresses in
> there, like we did for vdso?
My patch removed the hack for vDSO to leave the read-only
PT_DYNAMIC segment unrelocated.
--
H.J.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-16 22:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-09-14 19:09 Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-14 19:15 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-15 1:14 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-15 14:35 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-15 15:42 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-15 16:13 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-15 16:24 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-15 16:34 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16 1:43 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 2:23 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16 3:46 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 4:26 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16 4:28 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 4:30 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16 4:48 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-16 5:36 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 5:46 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-16 6:04 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 14:11 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-09-16 15:18 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16 16:45 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 17:38 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16 17:58 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 22:11 ` H.J. Lu [this message]
2021-09-17 2:47 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-17 2:59 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-17 3:36 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-17 3:42 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-17 3:44 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-17 3:44 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-17 3:51 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 18:03 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-16 22:14 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-17 2:58 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-17 3:46 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-17 4:00 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-17 4:12 ` [PATCH] ld.so: Remove DL_RO_DYN_SECTION H.J. Lu
2021-09-17 6:54 ` David Abdurachmanov
2021-09-17 9:01 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-17 15:40 ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-14 12:36 ` [PATCH] ld.so: Handle read-only dynamic section gracefully [BZ #28340] Maciej W. Rozycki
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