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From: Erich Elsen <eriche@google.com>
To: "Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>
Cc: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: memcpy performance regressions 2.19 -> 2.24(5)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 19:47:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOVZoAMNgKUFtD1B6SW-y9hECaOZiQtrNHRK3oK9oJi4wQ2pYQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28e34264-e8c5-5570-c48c-9125893808b2@redhat.com>

HJ - yes, the benchmark still shows the same behavior.  I did have to
modify the build to add -std=c++11.

Carlos - Maybe the first step is to add a tunable that allows for
selection of the non-temporal-store size threshold without changing
the implementation that is selected.  I can work on submitting this
patch.

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 05/10/2017 01:33 PM, H.J. Lu wrote:
>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Erich Elsen <eriche@google.com> wrote:
>>> store is a net win even though it causes a 2-3x decrease in single
>>> threaded performance for some processors?  Or how else is the decision
>>> about the threshold made?
>>
>> There is no perfect number to make everyone happy.  I am open
>> to suggestion to improve the compromise.
>>
>> H.J.
>
> I agree with H.J., there is a compromise to be made here. Having a single
> process thrash the box by taking all of the memory bandwidth might be
> sensible for a microservice, but glibc has to default to something that
> works well on average.
>
> With the new tunables infrastructure we can start talking about ways in
> which a tunable could influence IFUNC selection though, allowing users
> some kind of choice into tweaking for single-threaded or multi-threaded,
> single-user or multi-user etc.
>
> What I would like to see as the output of any discussion is a set of
> microbenchmarks (benchtests/) added to glibc that are the distillation
> of whatever workload we're talking about here. This is crucial to the
> community having a way to test from release-to-release that we don't
> regress performance.
>
> Unless you want to sign up to test your workload at every release then
> we need this kind of microbenchmark addition. And microbenchmarks are
> dead-easy to integrate with glibc so most people should have no excuse.
>
> The hardware vendors and distros who want particular performance tests
> are putting such tests in place (representative of their users), and direct
> end-users  who want particular performance are also adding tests.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Carlos.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-12 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-05 17:09 Erich Elsen
2017-05-05 18:09 ` Carlos O'Donell
2017-05-06  0:57   ` Erich Elsen
2017-05-06 15:41     ` H.J. Lu
2017-05-09 23:48       ` Erich Elsen
2017-05-10 17:33         ` H.J. Lu
2017-05-11  2:17           ` Carlos O'Donell
2017-05-12 19:47             ` Erich Elsen [this message]
     [not found]             ` <CAOVZoAPp3_T+ourRkNFXHfCSQUOMFn4iBBm9j50==h=VJcGSzw@mail.gmail.com>
2017-05-12 20:21               ` H.J. Lu
2017-05-12 21:21                 ` H.J. Lu
2017-05-18 20:59                   ` Erich Elsen
2017-05-22 19:17                     ` H.J. Lu
2017-05-22 20:22                       ` H.J. Lu
2017-05-23  1:23                       ` Erich Elsen
2017-05-23  2:25                         ` H.J. Lu
2017-05-23  3:19                           ` Erich Elsen
2017-05-23 20:39                             ` Erich Elsen
2017-05-23 20:46                               ` H.J. Lu
2017-05-23 20:57                                 ` Erich Elsen
2017-05-23 22:08                                   ` H.J. Lu
2017-05-23 22:12                                     ` Erich Elsen
2017-05-23 22:55                                       ` H.J. Lu
2017-05-24  0:56                                         ` Erich Elsen
2017-05-24  3:42                                           ` H.J. Lu
2017-05-24 21:03                                             ` Erich Elsen
2017-05-24 21:36                             ` H.J. Lu
2017-05-25 21:23                               ` Erich Elsen
2017-05-25 21:57                                 ` Erich Elsen
2017-05-25 22:03                                   ` H.J. Lu
2017-05-27  0:31                                     ` Erich Elsen
2017-05-27 21:35                                       ` H.J. Lu

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