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From: Wilco Dijkstra <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com>
To: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>
Cc: "libc-alpha@sourceware.org" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86_64: Remove bzero optimization
Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 13:29:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DB6PR0801MB1879E5C73F658E11E67EA2A883CF9@DB6PR0801MB1879.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed13c244-5c0f-aad5-042b-18333182caef@linaro.org>

Hi,

> And also Wilco has suggested that although memset with zero is the most common
> pattern, it is really doubtful that the micro-optimziation is worth on modern
> cores and I agree with him. Not sure how is darwin libc organized and if whether
> its bzero does yield any performance gain, but bug report it seems it was 
> aimed to reduce code size.

Yes, about ~90% of memset calls are zero on average. The statistics vary a lot per
application, 50% non-zero and 99% non-zero happen too, so it is not nearly skewed
enough that you only ever do zero memsets in most applications.

And the codesize impact is marginal - in SPEC2017 the benefit would be about 0.05%
on AArch64. These kinds of gains may be worth it in tiny microcontrollers where every
byte counts, but it's a drop in the ocean in big Linux systems.

Cheers,
Wilco

      reply	other threads:[~2022-05-16 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-13 12:40 Adhemerval Zanella
2022-05-13 14:54 ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-13 19:50   ` H.J. Lu
2022-05-13 23:13     ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-14  0:42       ` H.J. Lu
2022-05-14 23:51 ` Fangrui Song
2022-05-16 12:35   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-05-16 13:29     ` Wilco Dijkstra [this message]

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