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From: Wilco Dijkstra <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com>
To: Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Cc: "Steve Ellcey" <sellcey@cavium.com>,
	"Zack Weinberg" <zackw@panix.com>,
	"Ondřej Bílka" <neleai@seznam.cz>,
	"Siddhesh Poyarekar" <siddhesh@gotplt.org>,
	"libc-alpha@sourceware.org" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] Remove slow paths from sin/cos
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 21:13:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DB6PR0801MB2053FFC3A6ACD26708F400F483D30@DB6PR0801MB2053.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1803121607030.18746@digraph.polyomino.org.uk>

Joseph Myers wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2018, Wilco Dijkstra wrote:
>
>> Though these patches keep the ULP accuracy across the full range as is, 
>> we could agree on higher ULP errors for large/huge range reduction cases 
>> in the future. The main complexity is for certain rare inputs which happen to
>> be extremely close to an integer multiple of PI/2, and those few cases mean
>> you need significant extra work to guarantee 0.5 ULP error bound on range
>> reduction.
>
> I don't think the work for having an error bound not much more than 0.5ulp 
> on the final result of sin/cos for large arguments is significantly 
> different from the work for having an error bound of say 3ulp (the 
> testsuite has a global maximum of 9ulp (16ulp for IBM long double) beyond 
> which it will not accept errors even if those large errors are listed in 
> libm-test-ulps files - that bound is simply based on the errors 
> empirically observed at present, for functions other than Bessel functions 
> and cpow which are known to have cases with much larger errors).

Having to do another reduction step can increase latency significantly. To give
an example, I had to increase accuracy of the first-level range reduction because
a handful huge multiples of PI (6-7 digits) had 2-3ULP reduction error. The additional
accuracy means range reduction became 50% slower while being way too accurate
for almost all inputs.

Obviously it would be possible redesign it from scratch using a much smaller input
range and FMA when available etc.

Wilco

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-12 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-09 15:46 Wilco Dijkstra
2018-03-09 16:17 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-03-09 18:19   ` Ondřej Bílka
2018-03-09 18:52     ` Zack Weinberg
2018-03-09 23:05       ` Steve Ellcey
2018-03-10  0:52         ` Joseph Myers
2018-03-12 15:36           ` Wilco Dijkstra
2018-03-12 15:46             ` Zack Weinberg
2018-03-12 16:10             ` Joseph Myers
2018-03-12 21:13               ` Wilco Dijkstra [this message]
2018-03-09 19:06     ` Wilco Dijkstra
2018-03-09 19:31       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-03-12 18:09         ` Wilco Dijkstra
2018-03-13  8:53           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar

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