From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (mail.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC9D3858439 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2021 21:45:56 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 2AC9D3858439 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 17:45:52 -0400 From: Mike Frysinger To: Florian Weimer Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org Subject: Re: Copyright header for localedata files contributed under DCO Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Florian Weimer , libc-alpha@sourceware.org References: <87pmtq54hs.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> <87czpp4bvo.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> <87mtor38jn.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dXa50smd4uXz8+wz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87mtor38jn.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: libc-alpha@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libc-alpha mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 21:45:58 -0000 --dXa50smd4uXz8+wz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05 Sep 2021 07:17, Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha wrote: > * Mike Frysinger: > > i'm saying the files should disclaim all copyright. the point is to co= nvey > > that these are data files where copyright shouldn't be relevant. >=20 > That's a very U.S.-centric perspective. Many countries do not allow > authors to disclaim copyright (at best such a declaration would > interpreted as something like CC0). And many countries also offer some > kind of protection to organized collections of facts. i'm aware of the thorny issues that some countries don't understand the con= cept of public domain. that is orthogonal to facts can't be copyrighted in the = first place. iiuc, the FSF position on these files is that these are a list of f= acts and as such, aren't eligble for copyright, so the notice at the top of the = file is making that clear (instead of the reasonable assumption that it's under = the top level COPYING* i.e. GPL-2 or LGPL-2). i'll point out that these issues are not new. it has always been this way,= and DCO doesn't really change it. if you want to be super pessimistic and put something like CC0 on it, that's fine, but we still need a check enforcing it. > And I don't want to create a third type of contributions. you've lost me. requiring certain files be licensed in a certain way is no= t a new issue. we already won't accept contributions if people try to use some= thing like WTFPL. -mike --dXa50smd4uXz8+wz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEuQK1JxMl+JKsJRrUQWM7n+g39YEFAmE2jAwACgkQQWM7n+g3 9YEsGBAAlEm3iPIiZAYFMEPmAS+0Lg0BThOyBN0JxV/ACVymO/4L0xT6gi2cMaSX apGCzrU2bMAvpHI/2s8U0W1hOFwqAGGPOXTTradB0mPEseZ+bL+KrCGPpMbi3/ct 818g2nfqFjWYmkK9nM6lDPH9YBadJ2yL7D2KbZkE/XWAj51kH1RrtQlgdcnzoKn2 Iiagz+ZdC0ktew4FZaDzaiRlZgeMkpeNpP8U5+pGHdI3En7XOJiymMigzTfXW9WA yPZD2QaExkD3bG7q59GVTmDW6HK0YkPI13+CYSeW4MQxKZR60/DBCcn+jY4KmZBH lBJqdQD8YkVpDWwsH0N6/JqBPCzSZjauhmlPlQZ2lEp+OmOvT/glj9w2W2yP/pNg WJenmpGsHvR5h7K1/hVvv+oL8UqqhS5aC9qCLaWd1QHJST6pozimysFQtaOC0vJ6 GdpPFMhDyJvCsA3O5ltjTbMGadwfizdRCiCEL4wnyAmATAupcGLKUU3+u7uHIXn7 0fAXRjNUyIGz/V7QW8k2SW2FKG4K22EgrPMfKZ6WlVvSxEKExmwnzSrqPsQafIYS lU37J/EufhuNSaiLHe4YBCLWQZJqM1ED0SG/a+rOM6m9wv4OFYwj4QMITryq6xIm SPbNVCXLsUMfdoGbF/uYPl2Jva/JQ2u05BLAGIui9vFhgZJ2RbQ= =MtLg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dXa50smd4uXz8+wz--