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From: Oskari Pirhonen <xxc3ncoredxx@gmail.com>
To: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org,
	DJ Delorie <dj@redhat.com>, Jonny Grant <jg@jguk.org>,
	Matthew House <mattlloydhouse@gmail.com>,
	Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@suse.com>,
	Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	Zack Weinberg <zack@owlfolio.org>,
	"G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>,
	Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] stpncpy.3, string_copying.7: Clarify that st[rp]ncpy() do NOT produce a string
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2023 01:23:04 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZUyI2OfLUfC1Ea9c@dj3ntoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231108221638.37101-2-alx@kernel.org>

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On Wed, Nov 08, 2023 at 23:17:07 +0100, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> These copy *from* a string.  But the destination is a simple character
> sequence within an array; not a string.
> 
> Suggested-by: DJ Delorie <dj@redhat.com>
> Cc: Jonny Grant <jg@jguk.org>
> Cc: Matthew House <mattlloydhouse@gmail.com>
> Cc: Oskari Pirhonen <xxc3ncoredxx@gmail.com>
> Cc: Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@suse.com>
> Cc: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
> Cc: Zack Weinberg <zack@owlfolio.org>
> Cc: "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>
> Cc: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
> ---

I like the "with bytes from a string" wording. Good call.

- Oskari

> 
> Resending, including the mailing lists, which I forgot.
> 
>  man3/stpncpy.3        | 17 +++++++++++++----
>  man7/string_copying.7 | 20 ++++++++++----------
>  2 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/man3/stpncpy.3 b/man3/stpncpy.3
> index b6bbfd0a3..f86ff8c29 100644
> --- a/man3/stpncpy.3
> +++ b/man3/stpncpy.3
> @@ -6,9 +6,8 @@
>  .TH stpncpy 3 (date) "Linux man-pages (unreleased)"
>  .SH NAME
>  stpncpy, strncpy
> -\- zero a fixed-width buffer and
> -copy a string into a character sequence with truncation
> -and zero the rest of it
> +\-
> +fill a fixed-width null-padded buffer with bytes from a string
>  .SH LIBRARY
>  Standard C library
>  .RI ( libc ", " \-lc )
> @@ -37,7 +36,7 @@ .SH SYNOPSIS
>          _GNU_SOURCE
>  .fi
>  .SH DESCRIPTION
> -These functions copy the string pointed to by
> +These functions copy bytes from the string pointed to by
>  .I src
>  into a null-padded character sequence at the fixed-width buffer pointed to by
>  .IR dst .
> @@ -110,6 +109,16 @@ .SH CAVEATS
>  These functions produce a null-padded character sequence,
>  not a string (see
>  .BR string_copying (7)).
> +For example:
> +.P
> +.in +4n
> +.EX
> +strncpy(buf, "1", 5);       // { \[aq]1\[aq],   0,   0,   0,   0 }
> +strncpy(buf, "1234", 5);    // { \[aq]1\[aq], \[aq]2\[aq], \[aq]3\[aq], \[aq]4\[aq],   0 }
> +strncpy(buf, "12345", 5);   // { \[aq]1\[aq], \[aq]2\[aq], \[aq]3\[aq], \[aq]4\[aq], \[aq]5\[aq] }
> +strncpy(buf, "123456", 5);  // { \[aq]1\[aq], \[aq]2\[aq], \[aq]3\[aq], \[aq]4\[aq], \[aq]5\[aq] }
> +.EE
> +.in
>  .P
>  It's impossible to distinguish truncation by the result of the call,
>  from a character sequence that just fits the destination buffer;
> diff --git a/man7/string_copying.7 b/man7/string_copying.7
> index cadf1c539..0e179ba34 100644
> --- a/man7/string_copying.7
> +++ b/man7/string_copying.7
> @@ -41,15 +41,11 @@ .SS Strings
>  .\" ----- SYNOPSIS :: Null-padded character sequences --------/
>  .SS Null-padded character sequences
>  .nf
> -// Zero a fixed-width buffer, and
> -// copy a string into a character sequence with truncation.
> -.BI "char *stpncpy(char " dst "[restrict ." sz "], \
> +// Fill a fixed-width null-padded buffer with bytes from a string.
> +.BI "char *strncpy(char " dst "[restrict ." sz "], \
>  const char *restrict " src ,
>  .BI "               size_t " sz );
> -.P
> -// Zero a fixed-width buffer, and
> -// copy a string into a character sequence with truncation.
> -.BI "char *strncpy(char " dst "[restrict ." sz "], \
> +.BI "char *stpncpy(char " dst "[restrict ." sz "], \
>  const char *restrict " src ,
>  .BI "               size_t " sz );
>  .P
> @@ -240,14 +236,18 @@ .SS Truncate or not?
>  .\" ----- DESCRIPTION :: Null-padded character sequences --------------/
>  .SS Null-padded character sequences
>  For historic reasons,
> -some standard APIs,
> +some standard APIs and file formats,
>  such as
> -.BR utmpx (5),
> +.BR utmpx (5)
> +and
> +.BR tar (1),
>  use null-padded character sequences in fixed-width buffers.
>  To interface with them,
>  specialized functions need to be used.
>  .P
> -To copy strings into them, use
> +To copy bytes from strings into these buffers, use
> +.BR strncpy (3)
> +or
>  .BR stpncpy (3).
>  .P
>  To copy from an unterminated string within a fixed-width buffer into a string,
> -- 
> 2.42.0

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-09  7:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cfbd8674-fe6a-4430-95f1-ec8bde7da32e@jguk.org>
     [not found] ` <ZUacobMq0l_O8gjg@debian>
     [not found]   ` <aeb55af5-1017-4ffd-9824-30b43d5748e3@jguk.org>
     [not found]     ` <ZUgl2HPJvUge7XYN@debian>
     [not found]       ` <d40fffcb-524d-44b6-a252-b55a8ddc9fee@jguk.org>
     [not found]         ` <ZUo6btEFD_z_3NcF@devuan>
     [not found]           ` <929865e3-17b4-49c4-8fa9-8383885e9904@jguk.org>
     [not found]             ` <ZUpjI1AHNOMOjdFk@devuan>
     [not found]               ` <ZUsoIbhrJar6ojux@dj3ntoo>
2023-11-08  9:51                 ` strncpy clarify result may not be null terminated Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08  9:59                   ` Thorsten Kukuk
2023-11-08 15:09                     ` Alejandro Colomar
     [not found]                     ` <6bcad2492ab843019aa63895beaea2ce@DB6PR04MB3255.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>
2023-11-08 15:44                       ` Thorsten Kukuk
2023-11-08 17:26                         ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-11-08 14:06                   ` Zack Weinberg
2023-11-08 15:07                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 21:35                       ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-11-08 22:11                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 23:31                           ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-09  0:29                             ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 10:13                               ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-09 11:08                                 ` catenate vs concatenate (was: strncpy clarify result may not be null terminated) Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 14:06                                   ` catenate vs concatenate Jonny Grant
2023-11-27 14:33                                   ` catenate vs concatenate (was: strncpy clarify result may not be null terminated) Zack Weinberg
2023-11-27 15:08                                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-27 15:13                                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-27 16:59                                       ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-11-27 18:35                                         ` Zack Weinberg
2023-11-27 23:45                                           ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-11-09 11:13                                 ` strncpy clarify result may not be null terminated Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 14:05                                   ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-09 15:04                                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 19:04                   ` DJ Delorie
2023-11-08 19:40                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 19:58                       ` DJ Delorie
2023-11-08 20:13                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 21:07                           ` DJ Delorie
2023-11-08 21:50                             ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 22:17                               ` [PATCH] stpncpy.3, string_copying.7: Clarify that st[rp]ncpy() do NOT produce a string Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 23:06                                 ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-08 23:28                                   ` DJ Delorie
2023-11-09  0:24                                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 14:11                                   ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-09 14:35                                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 14:47                                       ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-09 15:02                                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 17:30                                           ` DJ Delorie
2023-11-09 17:54                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2023-11-09 18:00                                             ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 19:42                                             ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-09  7:23                                 ` Oskari Pirhonen [this message]
2023-11-09 15:20                                 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 15:20                                 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] stpncpy.3, string.3, string_copying.7: Clarify that st[rp]ncpy() pad with null bytes Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10  5:47                                   ` Oskari Pirhonen
2023-11-10 10:47                                     ` Alejandro Colomar
     [not found]           ` <20231108021240.176996-1-mattlloydhouse@gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <ZUvilH5kuQfTuZjy@debian>
     [not found]               ` <20231109031345.245703-1-mattlloydhouse@gmail.com>
2023-11-09 10:31                 ` strncpy clarify result may not be null terminated Jonny Grant
2023-11-09 11:38                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 12:43                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 12:51                     ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-11-09 14:01                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 18:11                     ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-09 23:48                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10  5:36                         ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-10 11:05                           ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 11:47                             ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 17:58                             ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-10 18:36                               ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 20:19                                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 23:44                                   ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-10 19:52                               ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 22:14                                 ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-11 21:13                                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-11 22:20                                     ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-12  9:52                                     ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-12 10:59                                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 11:36                           ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-10 13:15                             ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 11:23                     ` Jonny Grant
     [not found]               ` <CACKs7VDsTdSNwbC6+2LtQ67J_eJiD814xkw2_5XM1Q=iMjLXJA@mail.gmail.com>
2023-11-10 11:06                 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-12  9:17 ` [PATCH 0/2] Expand BUGS section of string_copying(7) Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-12  9:18 ` [PATCH 1/2] string_copying.7: BUGS: *cat(3) functions aren't always bad Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-12  9:18 ` [PATCH 2/2] string_copying.7: BUGS: Document strl{cpy,cat}(3)'s performance problems Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-12 11:26 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Improve string_copying(7) Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-12 11:26 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] string_copying.7: BUGS: *cat(3) functions aren't always bad Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-12 11:26 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] string_copying.7: BUGS: Document strl{cpy,cat}(3)'s performance problems Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-12 11:27 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] strtcpy.3, string_copying.7: Add strtcpy(3) Alejandro Colomar

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