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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: free(3) const void *
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 19:45:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZbP95ow2Orteo8Tv@debian> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ttn0q6p4.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>

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On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 10:40:23AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Yes, const can't help you prevent problems where you don't use const.  :)
> 
> I'm not saying that using const catches every C programming bug.  But
> using const currently does ensure that nothing in the call stack into
> which you pass a const pointer frees that pointer, unless it uses an
> explicit cast or otherwise breaks its interface contract.
> 
> (C in general, and by design, does not protect you from code that doesn't
> follow its interface contract, instead erring on the side of providing
> escape hatches to do odd things.  Nonetheless, interface contracts such as
> const are still helpful in finding bugs within collaborating code, even if
> they're not strictly enforced in every circumstance.)
> 
> > So, after Xi's reminder, I'll reformulate my suggestion to
> 
> > 	[[gnu::access(none)]]
> > 	void free(const void *p);
> 
> > (or for compatibility reasons, do the const thing via a macro.)
> 
> Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how this addresses the
> concerns that were raised.

I don't regard `const` as a contract that the pointer is not made
invalid (as you said, ISO C doesn't make such a claim).

I agree that these contracts are good, even if the programmer is allowed
to break them at will (usually, via a cast).  But to me, the only
contract that a pointer is made invalid or not, is the
[[gnu::malloc(f)]] atteribute.  If you use it consistently, you should
have few surprises.  Of course, it may need adaptation.

Have a lovely night,
Alex

-- 
<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es/>
Looking for a remote C programming job at the moment.

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-26 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-26 13:21 Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 14:24 ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-01-26 15:35   ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 17:22     ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-01-26 17:55       ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-01-26 18:11         ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 20:04           ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-01-26 20:07         ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-01-26 17:40     ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-26 19:45     ` Florian Weimer
2024-01-26 15:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-26 15:33   ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 18:09 ` Russ Allbery
2024-01-26 18:23   ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 18:36     ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-01-26 18:40       ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 18:49         ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-01-26 18:57           ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 18:40     ` Russ Allbery
2024-01-26 18:45       ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2024-01-26 19:41   ` Florian Weimer
2024-01-26 18:39 ` [PATCH] Use [[gnu::access(none)]] on free(3) Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 18:41   ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 21:23     ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-26 23:19       ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-27 13:21       ` Cristian Rodríguez
2024-02-13 15:19         ` Gabriel Ravier
2024-02-13 15:28           ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 21:11 ` free(3) const void * DJ Delorie
2024-01-26 21:30   ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-26 21:47     ` DJ Delorie
2024-01-26 22:07       ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-26 23:25       ` Alejandro Colomar

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