From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12866 invoked by alias); 19 Jun 2018 13:09:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact libc-alpha-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: libc-alpha-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 12847 invoked by uid 89); 19 Jun 2018 13:09:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=parties X-HELO: mail-qt0-f195.google.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:openpgp:autocrypt :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oXAYKFPOz9EJqbt6YVJ94DU209PbcCwKdygYSpnNWkM=; b=M6wanzaQeQ3IhBUqNc1azq4I8RDLApalyobkLqEyTM+kvWfvpCzZ8EjQvWa1MCWvY5 Ls91t9CkHKif/GzWN7QMRUXx3QLOentEGDu1+o59phZaCRi4BEsXvso30ByRoM+IDnhp mwYicrgilsc+mzWw9I2TNBO7mjDgviR7WoQRj0ruc+NWWmJfB2/t43OURh4pKuhKQYnr 0VGJsEjCVcO1cE9mw8yGGw4a9YM50Z6SnKUo/rXTJ21vL+O112oCTcXGoJYRb8pU6NxT 615cH613cZhNLmFfnmhe+4cZr7IEqvymoLFgo2wAt1NUHOeTlX6cni4Vn/Y+uLNVviW2 wPuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2q/cxm/LyYgapDwZtpsbjWM4IJxVp7BjFT7TDH2Gm5geqckagX aDhWWtjIgU5YYxcaC2OgmwankSr6X3g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKICAy/0ZGhldmGKNzQ/XUvmsvvU2OxgPTF9skvOWPP9FvkL2mLRG5bsIIPnxrU9xgsgcZ+d2g== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:2db8:: with SMTP id p53-v6mr14602418qta.250.1529413757184; Tue, 19 Jun 2018 06:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [RFC 0/1] Contributing a compound object to the libpthread To: Oleh Derevenko Cc: DJ Delorie , libc-alpha@sourceware.org References: <323c9f52-150f-ff48-9208-9b4ce734ecb8@linaro.org> From: Adhemerval Zanella Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 13:09:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SW-Source: 2018-06/txt/msg00559.txt.bz2 On 19/06/2018 09:42, Oleh Derevenko wrote: > Adhemerval, > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Adhemerval Zanella > wrote: > >>> Regarding the note of DJ Delorie -- the patent covers the >>> synchronization method (the approach), not a particular >>> implementation. You will not be able to create an implementation of >>> yours without violating the patent anyway. So, don't worry about the >>> effects of looking in the code. >>> >>> That said, I understand that my idea is not going to be accepted at >>> this time. I would like to apoligize for you time I have taken. In >>> case anyone is going to change their opinions on the matter feel free >>> to contact me. >> >> To be clear: it is not your idea that is being rejected, but rather >> your imposing rules we need to accept so you can disclosure your idea. > > All the patent texts (except for those that contain sectecy matter) > are publicly available from the USPTO or similar corresponding > national/international patent management offices. In particular, there > is a search form at the USPTO website you can use to view any present > or past patents and published applications. The sole idea of patents > is to create and save descriptions any other skilled individuals can > later use to re-create the inventions. Just, an exclusive use period > is granted to authors as a reward for their binging the inventions to > public. Later, after patents expire, they can (and should) be used to > advance everyday life of all the humanity (or other more humble > purposes -- whatever they are good for). In my opinion, most of the > patents in the database are good for nothing and are just wasted > money. Or they can be treated as enforced losses businesses have to > take due to the competitive environment they exist in. But sometimes > there are things that are worth the application/maintenance fees paid. > > So to resume, there is no problem in disclosing the idea. And it > already was disclosed here and is permanently being disclosed at the > USPTO website. I posted a link to it. > I am far from Copyright and patent expert and correct if I am wrong, but my understanding is for GNU projects all your description does not mean anything if you, the one holding the patent, do not sign a Copyright assignment for FSF so any projects which the idea or code derived from it are protected for Copyright enforcements by third parties (you inclusive).