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From: Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
To: Patrick McGehearty <patrick.mcgehearty@oracle.com>
Cc: <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] improves exp() and expf() performance on Sparc.
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 21:05:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1709072053000.32296@digraph.polyomino.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <706fe477-8d85-47d9-d62c-164bba5606ec@oracle.com>

On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Patrick McGehearty wrote:

> The sysdeps/ieee_754 subtree has a number of direct calls into
> ieee754_exp from such places as e_sinh, e_cosh, e_gamma_r, and s_erf.
> While I have not found direct calls to __exp in the ieee_754 subtree,
> I see overriding w_exp_compat.c as having some risk of
> unexpected behavior with the only perceived benefit to be eliminating
> a modest number of bytes from libm.

Those direct calls don't use the wrapper and so are completely irrelevant 
to the matter of overriding it.

It is quite clear that the wrapper needs to be overridden on any 
architecture providing its own exp (as opposed to __ieee754_exp) 
implementation, just as ia64 overrides it.

> For expf, the comparison for individual values shows an improvement
> in the range of 15x. benchtests does not measure expf().

Presumably you need to test with the benchmark addition Szabolcs points to 
in his patch submission.

> Making this change will provide a clear, immediate gain in expf()
> performance.

Maintainability is also important, and it points against having lots of 
architecture-specific versions.  Thus, people interested in expf 
optimization should first be helping with the review of Szabolcs's patch 
(and the benchtests addition patch it builds on).  Once that's done, it 
can provide a basis for judging the merits of architecture-specific expf 
versions (which might well also indicate improvements to Szabolcs's code 
as an alternative to adding an architecture-specific version).

For exp, when you have a better-performing C version the question should 
first be whether it can replace the existing generic C version (possibly 
then being built multiple times on architectures where that's useful) 
rather than whether to add it as architecture-specific code.  Adding a C 
version as architecture-specific code (rather than having limited 
architecture-specific hooks in a generic version) should only be once 
there is evidence of different architectures' performance characteristics 
requiring substantially different approaches.

-- 
Joseph S. Myers
joseph@codesourcery.com

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-07 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-01 22:59 Patrick McGehearty
2017-09-01 23:14 ` Joseph Myers
2017-09-06 20:34   ` Patrick McGehearty
2017-09-06 21:01     ` Joseph Myers
2017-09-07 20:42       ` Patrick McGehearty
2017-09-07 21:05         ` Joseph Myers [this message]
2017-09-07 23:53           ` Patrick McGehearty
2017-09-04 11:43 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2017-09-06 20:31   ` Patrick McGehearty
2017-09-11 18:50 Wilco Dijkstra

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