From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from esa3.mentor.iphmx.com (esa3.mentor.iphmx.com [68.232.137.180]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 020673858D3C for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2022 16:05:36 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 020673858D3C Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=codesourcery.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=mentor.com IronPort-SDR: pnhA5nKCB5V1nDIfsU95Vh/ePs8X6X7twDcmKX1QgNDmnjsRkL1QNMCWsbZN9W+uex9COxoWt4 FAKhXdu/fy75Z+rIN4TUhSL2NsjqNoNKdm0YLLe6lA3y8hkfH9F7H417HVJR8v3NazAHkfCuPX ppCt41+X69ePAvUo6SD5002m1OYdGu4xYg88tUtbFlIWwZLfD3QJjIvLLF0tbFu6J92+ALvl6Y 3Sp3YtelE8E2wDqKTZGUShXsdczFHZNk653s10AXqi5XeE2gb+DKWuWAI+C5Wq7zA5GLRtMU37 JEQBZbbbUhZCfP8nP7pmAmEb X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.88,356,1635235200"; d="scan'208";a="71611241" Received: from orw-gwy-02-in.mentorg.com ([192.94.38.167]) by esa3.mentor.iphmx.com with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2022 08:05:36 -0800 IronPort-SDR: sTBAwBvh6Nxon1sWcZcHy/Wniwu81WETM/C1hcD5D5OlNZn5KM/Fj3WndH50xR2+Uvrw78fnKr OWj4J64bg67unG0ZzLUpA8ZDCnWaK+o7jL2G6RFF6yJwRma2FieGm1a7JkdIrM7XMO8yRzBW8J 25SjyRnr8i9FtfgR/k9dOywbVzlfTnaXis7Aceq4l40a0MQ0JhqZjuQ7/jE1hFUOmRmpWJv50i 8YqHNeayDea8UqmZn3RNxpe7T+b5K6FeYrYLWYXLst1Ix7ifgZuYInLxfPrHzqIVt14u3mQhIh RAc= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 16:05:31 +0000 From: Joseph Myers X-X-Sender: jsm28@digraph.polyomino.org.uk To: Carlos O'Donell CC: libc-alpha Subject: Re: Retrospective on glibc 2.34 and glibc 2.35 release. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.22 (DEB 394 2020-01-19) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Originating-IP: [137.202.0.90] X-ClientProxiedBy: svr-ies-mbx-15.mgc.mentorg.com (139.181.222.15) To svr-ies-mbx-01.mgc.mentorg.com (139.181.222.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3114.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS, TXREP, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: libc-alpha@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libc-alpha mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2022 16:05:38 -0000 On Wed, 9 Feb 2022, Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha wrote: > In order to support these ABI changes I wonder if we don't need a specific > window within the release like "Month 1: ABI" where we focus on this theme > of getting new ABIs into the first month of development? There is a similarity > here with respect to gcc's staged development. I don't think we need such a short period for getting new ABIs in. Five months for general development and one month for stablization and testing should be fine if we return to having a proper release freeze with no major architecture-independent changes, whether or not they affect ABIs, in at least the last two weeks of the freeze (unless significant problems with a new ABI are discovered late, in which case the normal expectation should be to remove it from the release and reconsider in fixed form for the next release). -- Joseph S. Myers joseph@codesourcery.com