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To: Joseph Myers , Alexandre Oliva Cc: "Ryan S. Arnold" , Paul Eggert , Maxim Kuvyrkov , Jakub Jelinek , Andreas Schwab , libc-alpha References: From: Carlos O'Donell Organization: Red Hat In-Reply-To: X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,KAM_SHORT,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On 8/30/23 13:31, Joseph Myers wrote: > On Wed, 30 Aug 2023, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > >> Even then, this would IMHO be a move for GNU to decide, or at the very >> least be consulted on, according to its own values and priorities, >> something that all mantainers appointed by GNU, myself included, >> committed ourselves to observe, prioritize and uphold as maintainers of >> GNU packages. I encourage other maintainers to justify their responses >> based on GNU's values and priorities, as they understand them. > > I believe the LF has already agreed to implement the hosting entirely with > free software. Naturally we should make sure that other requirements from > https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria.en.html such as "Does not > discriminate against classes of users, or against any country. (C2)" and > "Permits access via Tor (we consider this an important site function). > (C3)" are met, though I don't expect problems there. Several criteria are > trivally met or inapplicable simply because they concern things that are > beyond the scope of this proposed hosting (for example, recommending > particular choices of license, or offering choices of license, is entirely > outside the scope of what these hosting facilities do, just as it's > outside the scope of what Sourceware does - those are criteria for > general-purpose hosting sites that anyone might add a package to). The LF IT has agreed to implement hosting entirely with FOSS. I agree completely with Joseph here that the repo criteria [1] are the relevant criteria to apply in this case. I'll reach out to LF IT to work through the repo criteria. Likewise I will create documents to answer and cover some of Paul Eggert's questions. -- Cheers, Carlos. [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria.en.html