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From: Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
To: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: Wilco Dijkstra <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com>,
	Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	"linux-man@vger.kernel.org" <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>,
	"libc-alpha@sourceware.org" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	"G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bind.2, mount_setattr.2, openat2.2, perf_event_open.2, pidfd_send_signal.2, recvmmsg.2, seccomp_unotify.2, select_tut.2, sendmmsg.2, set_thread_area.2, sysctl.2, bzero.3, getaddrinfo.3, getaddrinfo_a.3, getutent.3, mbrtowc.3, mbsinit.3, rti...
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 17:01:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b6f134c0-1e3a-4685-3669-b4093f3aa6@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <91de4293-9237-68d5-7743-9519f4259ecb@gmail.com>

On Fri, 6 Jan 2023, Alejandro Colomar via Libc-alpha wrote:

> P.S.:  To compensate for the time I'm taking from you, I'm preparing a patch
> to remove rawmemchr(3) from glibc.  I'll send it when it's "ready".  Although

Don't waste your time.  The criterion for removing a function is something 
close to "never did anything meaningful or useful; no binary could ever 
have successfully used the function with the ABI with which it was 
defined"; otherwise we'd need a compelling case for how removing the 
function can't break any existing binaries or sources we'd care about.  
Even turning a function into a compat symbol, so making it unavailable to 
new programs (while keeping it for existing binaries and keeping glibc 
tests of that compat symbol), requires a much stronger deprecation basis 
than "there are standard functions that are just as good".  And marking 
functions as deprecated with an attribute in headers - normally desirable 
several releases before making a function into a compat symbol, at least - 
also needs such a stronger deprecation basis; nothing in this thread 
suggests any basis for marking *any* string functions as deprecated to me.

-- 
Joseph S. Myers
joseph@codesourcery.com

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-06 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-06 15:53 Wilco Dijkstra
2023-01-06 16:20 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-06 17:01   ` Joseph Myers [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-01-06  2:26 Wilco Dijkstra
2023-01-06 13:49 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-06  0:02 Wilco Dijkstra
2023-01-06  0:22 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-06  0:57   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-05 19:37 [PATCH] bind.2, mount_setattr.2, openat2.2, perf_event_open.2, pidfd_send_signal.2, recvmmsg.2, seccomp_unotify.2, select_tut.2, sendmmsg.2, set_thread_area.2, sysctl.2, bzero.3, getaddrinfo.3, getaddrinfo_a.3, getutent.3, mbrtowc.3, mbsinit.3, rtime.3, rtnetlink.3, strptime.3, NULL.3const, size_t.3type, void.3type, aio.7, netlink.7, unix.7: Prefer bzero(3) over memset(3) Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-05 20:48 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-01-05 20:55   ` Paul Eggert
2023-01-05 21:12     ` [PATCH] bind.2, mount_setattr.2, openat2.2, perf_event_open.2, pidfd_send_signal.2, recvmmsg.2, seccomp_unotify.2, select_tut.2, sendmmsg.2, set_thread_area.2, sysctl.2, bzero.3, getaddrinfo.3, getaddrinfo_a.3, getutent.3, mbrtowc.3, mbsinit.3, rti Wilco Dijkstra
2023-01-05 21:33       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-05 23:30       ` Wilco Dijkstra

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