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From: Chet Ramey <chet.ramey@case.edu>
To: Carl Edquist <edquist@cs.wisc.edu>
Cc: chet.ramey@case.edu, Martin D Kealey <martin@kurahaupo.gen.nz>,
	Zachary Santer <zsanter@gmail.com>, bug-bash <bug-bash@gnu.org>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Examples of concurrent coproc usage?
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 10:20:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bbfa18b9-4c28-46e7-833b-6861535b8a64@case.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cfd1b580-147d-b42d-27ed-fb96621a080c@cs.wisc.edu>

On 4/15/24 1:01 PM, Carl Edquist wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024, Chet Ramey wrote:
> 
>> The original intent was to allow the shell to drive a long-running 
>> process that ran more-or-less in parallel with it. Look at 
>> examples/scripts/bcalc for an example of that kind of use.
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this example.  As you understand, this model use case 
> does not require closing the coproc fds when finished, because they will be 
> closed implicitly when the shell exits.  (As bcalc itself admits.)
> 
> And if the coproc is left open for the lifetime of the shell, the alternate 
> behavior of deferring the coproc deallocation (until both coproc fds are 
> closed) would not require anything extra from the user.
> 
> The bcalc example does close both coproc fds though - both at the end, and 
> whenever it resets.  And so in this example (which as you say, was the 
> original intent), the user is already explicitly closing both coproc fds 
> explicitly; so the alternate deferring behavior would not require anything 
> extra from the user here either.
> 
> ...
> 
> Yet another point brought to light by the bcalc example relates to the 
> coproc pid variable.  The reset() function first closes the coproc pipe 
> fds, then sleeps for a second to give the BC coproc some time to finish.
> 
> An alternative might be to 'wait' for the coproc to finish (likely faster 
> than sleeping for a second). 

If the coproc has some problem and doesn't exit immediately, `wait' without
options will hang. That's why I opted for the sleep/kill-as-insurance
combo.

(And before you ask why I didn't use `wait -n', I wrote bcalc in 30 minutes
after someone asked me a question about doing floating point math with awk
in a shell script, and it worked.)

-- 
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
		 ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU    chet@case.edu    http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-17 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CABkLJULa8c0zr1BkzWLTpAxHBcpb15Xms0-Q2OOVCHiAHuL0uA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <9831afe6-958a-fbd3-9434-05dd0c9b602a@draigBrady.com>
2024-03-10 15:29   ` RFE: enable buffering on null-terminated data Zachary Santer
2024-03-10 20:36     ` Carl Edquist
2024-03-11  3:48       ` Zachary Santer
2024-03-11 11:54         ` Carl Edquist
2024-03-11 15:12           ` Examples of concurrent coproc usage? Zachary Santer
2024-03-14  9:58             ` Carl Edquist
2024-03-17 19:40               ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-01 19:24               ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-01 19:31                 ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-02 16:22                   ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-03 13:54                     ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-03 14:32               ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-03 17:19                 ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-08 15:07                   ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-09  3:44                     ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-13 18:45                       ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-14  2:09                         ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-04 12:52                 ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-04 23:23                   ` Martin D Kealey
2024-04-08 19:50                     ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-09 14:46                       ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-13 18:51                         ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-09 15:58                       ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-13 20:10                         ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-14 18:43                           ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-15 18:55                             ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-15 17:01                           ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-17 14:20                             ` Chet Ramey [this message]
2024-04-20 22:04                               ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-22 16:06                                 ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-27 16:56                                   ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-28 17:50                                     ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-08 16:21                   ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-12 16:49                     ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-16 15:48                       ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-20 23:11                         ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-22 16:12                           ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-17 14:37               ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-20 22:04                 ` Carl Edquist
2024-03-12  3:34           ` RFE: enable buffering on null-terminated data Zachary Santer
2024-03-14 14:15             ` Carl Edquist
2024-03-18  0:12               ` Zachary Santer
2024-03-19  5:24                 ` Kaz Kylheku
2024-03-19 12:50                   ` Zachary Santer
2024-03-20  8:55                     ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-19  0:16                       ` Modify buffering of standard streams via environment variables (not LD_PRELOAD)? Zachary Santer
2024-04-19  9:32                         ` Pádraig Brady
2024-04-19 11:36                           ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-19 12:26                             ` Pádraig Brady
2024-04-19 16:11                               ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-20 16:00                         ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-20 20:00                           ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-20 21:45                             ` Carl Edquist

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